13. Rating in Martindale-Hubbell:She is listed but has not been rated individually by Martindale-Hubbell. Her law firm is rated AV.
14. Frequency of appearances in court:
Federal - very infrequently
State - daily
Other -
15. Percentage of litigation:
Civil - 5%
Criminal - 5%
Domestic - 90%
16. Percentage of cases in trial courts:
Jury - less than 5%
Non-Jury - more than 95%
Sole Counsel
17. Five (5) of the most significant litigated matters in either trial or
appellate court:
(a) Shuler v. Shuler. This was a contested divorce case in which
she represented one of the parties. The most significant issues in
this case were purely economic. This couple had amassed in excess of
$75,000 in personal debt on 45 different credit cards and loan
accounts. In addition, the marital residence was titled in the
husband's father's name, though both husband and wife had contributed
to the equity in it. The contested issues involved the setting of
alimony, the distribution of the marital debt, the distribution of
equity in the home, and the inter-relation between these economic
factors on each other.
18. Five (5) civil appeals:
While she has never handled an appeal from a divorce, custody or child
support case, she has handled an appeal from a juvenile criminal case in
Family Court. State v. Napoleon Goodson IV, Court of General
Sessions, Date of Decision: March 4, 1986
28. Financial Arrangements or Business Relationships (Conflict of
Interest):
Kirkland, Dodson, Rush & Riddle
She would recuse herself in any case involving former clients. In addition,
she would recuse herself from hearing any cases involving members of her law
firm until judicial ethics would permit.
44. Bar Associations and Professional Organizations:
South Carolina Bar Association
45. Civic, charitable, educational, social and fraternal organizations:
St. Luke's Lutheran Church
47. Five (5) letters of recommendation:
(a) Mary Varnadore, Regional Manager
S. C. Telco Federal Credit Union
P. O. Box 3287, Cayce-West Columbia, SC 29171
256-3132
(b) Samuel F. Crews, III, Esquire
Richardson, Plowden, Grier & Howser, P.A.
P. O. Drawer 7788, Columbia, SC 29202
771-4400
(c) Honorable Barbara A. Scott
Clerk of Court, Richland County
P. O. Box 1781, Columbia, SC 29202
748-4684
(d) Cyril B. Rush, Jr., Esquire
Kirkland, Dodson, Rush & Riddle
P. O. Box 8012, Columbia, SC 29202
252-0370
The Board of Commissioners on Grievances and Discipline reports no formal complaints or charges of any kind have ever been filed against you. The Record of the applicable law enforcement agencies, the Richland County Sheriff's Office, Columbia and Irmo City Police, SLED and FBI are all negative. The Judgment Rolls of Richland County are negative. The Federal Court records are negative. We have no complaints or statements which we've received. No witnesses are present to testify against you.
Prior to turning your testimony over to Mr. Elliott for questioning, you do
have the opportunity to make an oral statement or if you want, a written
statement for us to put in the record.
MS. RIDDLE: Waive.
THE CHAIRMAN: Thank you very much. Mr. Elliott.
MS. RIDDLE - EXAMINATION BY MR. ELLIOTT:
Q. Let's do the same thing if we could as we did with Ms. Heizer and sort
of establish your experience with Family Court.
A. Okay.
Q. And those kind of matters.
A. Initially whenever I graduated from law school ten years ago, I started
working in the Solicitor's office, for the Solicitor's Office. At that time, I
did approximately a year and a half as a juvenile prosecutor. My job at that
point was to prosecute all children accused of criminal acts in Richland County.
At that time I also did some of the abuse and neglect prosecution.
And then I believe in 1986, I went to practice law in private practice at Kirkland -- it was Kirkland, Aaron and Alley at that time. During my time of practicing law there, I did domestic work, custody fights, abuse and neglect defense of the parent. I represented juveniles in criminal cases in Family Court. I did termination of -- terminations of parental rights, adoptions, child support, defending paternity actions. Every aspect of Family Court that you basically could do.
Then my -- that practice dissolved and I began practicing law as a partner in the law firm of Kirkland, Dodson, Rush and Riddle. During my time of practicing law there, I have done some contract work for the Department of Social Services as their attorney for abuse and neglect. I did that this past summer which included -- at that point, it was at the time
During that time, I prosecuted abuse and neglects. And I believe in 19 -- the latter part of 1988 to the early part of 1990, I represented the guardian ad litem project for abuse and neglected children representing children in abuse and neglect.
During the time that -- in addition, while I've been practicing with
Kirkland, Dodson, Rush and Riddle, I represented litigants in divorce matters,
custody fights, all of the things that you can do in Family Court and, in
addition, I have represented on numerous occasions children in custody fights.
So I have -- my practice of law has been in Family Court almost exclusively
since I've been out of law school.
Q. Almost exclusively. Could you put a percentage on that, please?
A. 95.
Q. I think it's, what, a ten-year record?
A. 95.
Q. That you've been out --
A. I have done some criminal representation in General Sessions. It's not been
my favorite area, but I have done some of it. Luckily, my twin brother does all
that now.
Q. What about marital property, what experience have you had?
A. I have litigated the division of marital property. I've litigated the aspect
of how debts are related to the division of marital property. I have litigated
the division of marital property when the title holders of that property were
not the individuals in the lawsuits. In other words, you may be named third
parties as individuals or parties in the action.
I mean I have litigated debt obligations that would just blow you away,
$165,000 worth of credit cards. I mean you spend a day going through credit
cards debt.
Q. You'd be surprised. That doesn't blow me away.
A. I think that's a lot of the reason for breakups of marriages, but that's
that.
Q. You've prosecuted juveniles and we've asked this of other candidates, having
done so, you may be in a -- have a special point of view --
A. I think --
Q. -- about that? What can be done about the rising tide of juvenile crime?
A. Well, I have -- initially whenever I began being a juvenile prosecutor, I
noticed the increase in the guns and then taking it to school and taking weapons
and stuff like that. I was involved in some shooting -- well, I
You know, when you evaluate it and you look at what happens, what you see a lot of times is that the children's support and the positive peer pressure and everything isn't there when they go home. I used to say whenever I was prosecuting that you had like four or five different categories where you saw children coming into Family Court. You know, they didn't know their father, they'd never met their father or their mother, they didn't have a real good relationship with her, she was a single parent, she was working all the time, she was not taking appropriate care of them. You see them a lot of times. You see some adoptive children in that situation.
There's all kinds of things out there and that's one of the biggest reasons I want to be a Family Court judge is because there are things you can do to help kids that if you've got experience and you've seen what's there, you can really apply it and have an effect on what happens to this kid.
I'm talking about like there is the Beaufort Marine Program which I know ya'll have probably heard a lot about. There's all kind of ideas like Judge Byars wants to put in the possibility of a -- not a boot camp, but a school that they could get positive peer pressure as opposed to negative peer pressure which is all they see in the schools.
I mean all of those things can be applied if you know they are there and you
want to do it. And that is all I've ever done and I mean I think I can do it.
Somebody needs to jump in the fire and take responsibility instead of sitting
back and just hoping things get better.
Q. Do you see the Family Court as the first line of defense?
A. Well, I think home is the first line. I mean, you know, I think the family
and the extended family. I think a lot of people have gotten away with the
importance of what extended family is. I think that's your first line of
defense.
I think the school system is there to support the family, but it's not the ultimate responsibility. The ultimate responsibility falls in the home. And whenever the homes fail and when the school can't, you know, help, that's when the schools come in and the kids have to feel like when they come into that courtroom that somebody means business.
You know, they're not going to stand back and just say, "Well, I'm sorry, Johnny, you know, I'm going to let you go home this time and you don't have to worry about it." Somebody has got to be there and they've got to sit there and go look, "I mean business." I mean and that's what
My clients are very important to me. I spend all of my day either seeing
clients or preparing orders, talking on the telephone. I usually work until six
-- well, a quarter to 6:00 and then I go pick up my children and do what mama's
should do.
Q. Are you there on Friday afternoons?
A. I don't know any other way, but to work on Friday afternoons, but I work
sometimes Saturdays and sometimes Sundays.
Q. What would your workday be like on the bench? When would it start and when
would it end?
A. Well, if my track record is an indication of what it would be, I would get
there when I'm supposed to be first thing in the morning. I mean, I would get
there anywhere from 8:30 to 9:00 o'clock in the morning which is when most
judges get there. I mean, well, for the most part, and then I would hear my
cases and I would work until I was through.
I mean I think one of the really, really important things and one of the things that the litigants need is somebody that will be there that won't say,
And I recently tried a four day custody case with Judge Rucker and he treated
the litigants, the attorneys and all the witnesses with respect and
understanding and concern and I think that's real important that the judges
understand that that's -- that goes without saying.
Q. In the areas of gifts and social hospitality, what's going to be your
rule?
A. Well, I, too, looked over the Judicial Canons whenever I was -- before I came
here and wanted to make sure that I understood them in case I was asked a
question like that. You don't take any gifts. I know, for example, Judge
Campbell got a turkey one time and he just gave it back. I think it went bad
downstairs in the Family Court. But you just -- you don't take them. It's just
a rule that you just don't accept gifts at all.
Q. Is your standard the same as some of the other candidates, anything of value
constitutes a gift?
A. I wouldn't take it because I wouldn't want anybody to think that I wasn't
being fair.
Q. What practices have you employed as an attorney in the area of ex parte
communication and what do you expect out of the Bar, if you become a judge?
A. Well, my understanding of ex parte communications is you don't do it, period.
If you are going to talk to a judge about a case, the other side should be
there. That would be what I would do.
Q. All right.
A. I mean, I would not talk to them about the subject without the other lawyer
being there.
The way that I have seen it done and the way that I have done it with judges is that the judge generally makes the order from the bench, writes down what his order or her order is in the court file, so that when she does receive that order, she knows what the order is.
The order is prepared by either the plaintiff or the defendant's attorney depending on who is told to do it. It's presented to the other side and then it's sent on.
Now, if there was a controversy about what the order said or shouldn't say, I
mean the response you have is you listen to the tape of the hearing. I mean
that's the way you'd have to settle that dispute.
Q. What level of comfort are you going to have to have to sign an order written
by somebody else?
A. I'm going to read it. I mean I think the most important thing is you've
just got to sit down and you've got to read and make sure it says exactly what
you ordered.
Q. Well, to what extent do you read it? I mean do you read it and then check
the cites? What do you do?
A. If there are cases cited in there and I am not familiar with those cases,
then I would refer to those cites and make sure that what that lawyer said that
cite or what that order is saying, I'd make sure it said it. The other thing is
I would refer back to my notes from the hearing and make sure that what was in
the order is what I ordered and read it thoroughly. I mean in my cases most of
it, I've never -- well, first of all, I would never send an order to a judge
that wasn't what the judge ordered, but I have seen that most judges read their
orders before they sign them.
Q. From your Personal Data Questionnaire, it looks like you come from a family
full of lawyers. Is that correct?
A. We clone them.
Q. You clone them. Do you understand what your ethical responsibilities are if
you're elected a judge and should one of them come before you perhaps or have a
case involving them before you?
Until the Judiciary tells me that it's okay, I'm not going to hear any of
them. I assume that probably that my current law partners will probably always
practice law with my brother, so, you know, I wouldn't.
Q. Is your husband an attorney? I think I read that he was.
A. Yes, he's a prosecutor.
Q. And he practices in Lexington County, or is a prosecutor in Lexington
County?
A. He's a prosecutor, yes.
Q. If you're a Family Court judge, there is going to be an occasional case where
you sure would like to have the advice of somebody real close to you, that you
can trust and value their opinion?
A. Uh-huh.
Q. I assume that might be your husband?
A. Uh-huh.
Q. How would you handle that?
A. I believe if I'm not correct about this, that the Canons say that there is
nothing that forbids a judge from asking someone that's got some -- a particular
expertise, but that you have to get permission from the litigants before you do
that. I doubt I would ask my husband for legal advice.
Q. I won't pursue that. Have you sought the pledge of a legislator either
directly or indirectly?
A. No.
Q. Have you asked anyone else or otherwise authorized anyone to seek a pledge
for you?
A. No, I have not.
Q. Do you know of any solicitations for pledges that have been made on your
behalf?
A. Pledges. No.
Q. What have you done on behalf of your candidacy so far?
A. Well, I've introduced myself and sent them a resume and let them know about
my experience and, you know, I've gone around and just