Journal of the House of Representatives
of the First Session of the 111th General Assembly
of the State of South Carolina
being the Regular Session Beginning Tuesday, January 10, 1995

Page Finder Index

| Printed Page 1180, Mar. 1 | Printed Page 1200, Mar. 1 |

Printed Page 1190 . . . . . Wednesday, March 1, 1995

Rep. HODGES moved to table the amendment, which was agreed to.

AMENDMENT NO. 6--TABLED

Debate was resumed on Amendment No. 6, which was proposed on Wednesday, March 1, by Rep. HODGES.

Rep. HODGES explained the amendment.

Rep. HUFF moved to table the amendment.

Rep. HODGES demanded the yeas and nays, which were taken resulting as follows:

Yeas 57; Nays 55

Those who voted in the affirmative are:

Allison          Anderson         Bailey
Brown, H.        Cain             Cato
Chamblee         Cooper           Cotty
Dantzler         Easterday        Fair
Fleming          Harrell          Harrison
Haskins          Herdklotz        Huff
Hutson           Keegan           Kelley
Kirsh            Klauber          Knotts
Koon             Lanford          Law
Limbaugh         Limehouse        Littlejohn
Marchbanks       Mason            Meacham
Quinn            Rice             Richardson
Robinson         Sandifer         Sharpe
Simrill          Smith, D.        Smith, R.
Stille           Thomas           Townsend
Tripp            Trotter          Vaughn
Walker           Wells            Whatley
Wilkins          Witherspoon      Wofford
Wright           Young, A.        Young, J.

Total--57

Those who voted in the negative are:

Askins           Baxley           Beatty
Boan             Breeland         Brown, G.
Brown, J.        Brown, T.        Byrd
Canty            Carnell          Cave
Clyburn          Cobb-Hunter      Cromer


Printed Page 1191 . . . . . Wednesday, March 1, 1995

Davenport        Delleney         Elliott
Gamble           Govan            Harris, J.
Harris, P.       Harvin           Harwell
Hines            Hodges           Howard
Inabinett        Jennings         Kennedy
Keyserling       Kinon            Lloyd
McAbee           McCraw           McElveen
McMahand         McTeer           Moody-Lawrence
Neal             Neilson          Phillips
Rogers           Scott            Sheheen
Shissias         Spearman         Stuart
Whipper, L.      Whipper, S.      White
Wilder           Wilkes           Williams
Worley

Total--55

So, the amendment was tabled.

Rep. CROMER proposed the following Amendment No. 11 (Doc Name L:\council\legis\amend\PFM\7217AC.95), which was tabled.

Amend the bill, as and if amended, Part V, page 3613-9, beginning on line 26, by deleting SECTION 1.

Renumber sections to conform.

Amend title to conform.

Rep. CROMER explained the amendment.

Rep. HARRISON spoke against the amendment and moved to table the amendment.

Rep. NEAL demanded the yeas and nays, which were taken resulting as follows:

Yeas 78; Nays 27

Those who voted in the affirmative are:

Allison          Askins           Bailey
Baxley           Boan             Brown, H.
Cain             Cato             Chamblee
Clyburn          Cooper           Cotty
Dantzler         Davenport        Delleney
Easterday        Elliott          Fair


Printed Page 1192 . . . . . Wednesday, March 1, 1995

Fleming          Gamble           Harrell
Harris, J.       Harrison         Harvin
Harwell          Haskins          Herdklotz
Huff             Hutson           Jennings
Keegan           Kelley           Kennedy
Kinon            Kirsh            Klauber
Knotts           Koon             Lanford
Law              Limbaugh         Limehouse
Littlejohn       Marchbanks       Martin
Mason            McCraw           McElveen
Meacham          Phillips         Quinn
Rice             Richardson       Robinson
Sandifer         Sharpe           Simrill
Smith, D.        Smith, R.        Spearman
Stille           Stuart           Thomas
Townsend         Tripp            Trotter
Vaughn           Waldrop          Walker
Wells            Whatley          Wilkins
Witherspoon      Wofford          Worley
Wright           Young, A.        Young, J.

Total--78

Those who voted in the negative are:

Anderson         Breeland         Brown, G.
Brown, T.        Byrd             Canty
Carnell          Cave             Cobb-Hunter
Cromer           Harris, P.       Hines
Howard           Inabinett        Keyserling
Lloyd            McAbee           McMahand
McTeer           Moody-Lawrence   Neal
Neilson          Scott            Sheheen
Whipper, S.      White            Williams

Total--27

So, the amendment was tabled.


Printed Page 1193 . . . . . Wednesday, March 1, 1995

Rep. CANTY proposed the following Amendment No. 13 (Doc Name L:\council\legis\amend\BR1\18221AC.95), which was tabled.

Amend the bill, as and if amended, Part III, Section 11, page 3613-5, by deleting /thirty-day/ on line 23 and inserting /sixty-day/.

Renumber sections to conform.

Amend title to conform.

Rep. CANTY explained the amendment.

Rep. HUFF spoke against the amendment and moved to table the amendment, which was agreed to.

AMENDMENT NO. 6--MOTION TO RECONSIDER TABLED

Rep. KIRSH moved to reconsider the vote whereby Amendment No. 6 was tabled.

Rep. HARRISON moved to table the motion to reconsider.

Rep. HODGES demanded the yeas and nays, which were taken resulting as follows:

Yeas 60; Nays 52

Those who voted in the affirmative are:

Allison          Bailey           Brown, H.
Cain             Cato             Chamblee
Cooper           Cotty            Dantzler
Davenport        Delleney         Easterday
Fair             Fleming          Harrell
Harrison         Haskins          Herdklotz
Huff             Hutson           Keegan
Kelley           Kinon            Klauber
Knotts           Koon             Lanford
Law              Limbaugh         Limehouse
Littlejohn       Marchbanks       Mason
Meacham          Quinn            Rice
Richardson       Robinson         Sandifer
Sharpe           Simrill          Smith, D.
Smith, R.        Stille           Stuart
Thomas           Townsend         Tripp
Trotter          Vaughn           Waldrop
Walker           Wells            Whatley


Printed Page 1194 . . . . . Wednesday, March 1, 1995

Wilkins          Witherspoon      Wofford
Wright           Young, A.        Young, J.

Total--60

Those who voted in the negative are:

Anderson         Askins           Baxley
Beatty           Boan             Breeland
Brown, G.        Brown, T.        Byrd
Canty            Carnell          Cave
Clyburn          Cobb-Hunter      Cromer
Elliott          Gamble           Govan
Harris, J.       Harvin           Harwell
Hines            Hodges           Howard
Inabinett        Jennings         Kennedy
Keyserling       Kirsh            Lloyd
Martin           McAbee           McCraw
McElveen         McMahand         McTeer
Moody-Lawrence   Neal             Neilson
Phillips         Rogers           Scott
Sheheen          Shissias         Spearman
Whipper, L.      Whipper, S.      White
Wilder           Wilkes           Williams
Worley

Total--52

So, the motion to reconsider was tabled.

Rep. RICE proposed the following Amendment No. 14 (Doc Name L:\council\legis\amend\BR1\18216AC.95), which was tabled.

Amend the bill, as and if amended, Part IV, Section 1, page 3613-8, line 34, by inserting /or private nonprofit/ after /public/.

Amend further, Part IV, Section 1, page 3613-8, by inserting after the /./ on line 36 /An AFDC recipient whose benefits are extended under this item for having volunteered for twenty hours a week shall submit a weekly volunteer hour statement to the department signed by the recipient and the recipient's supervisor./

Amend further, Part IV, Section 1, by inserting on page 3613-8 at the end of Section 1:


Printed Page 1195 . . . . . Wednesday, March 1, 1995

/The Department of Social Services monthly shall publish a list of all AFDC recipients by county who are seeking volunteer service positions and shall make this list available to the public sector and to the private nonprofit sector./

Renumber sections to conform.

Amend title to conform.

Rep. RICE moved to table the amendment, which was agreed to.

Reps. NEILSON, GOVAN, HINES, COBB-HUNTER and SHISSIAS proposed the following Amendment No. 15 (Doc Name L:\council\legis\amend\GJK\21503AC.95), which was tabled.

Amend the bill, as and if amended, Part VI, by adding an appropriately numbered section to read:

/SECTION . Section 20-7-420 of the 1976 Code is amended by adding an appropriately numbered item to read:

"( ) To require, in its discretion and upon a showing of good cause, a parent or custodian of a child who receives child support on behalf of a child to submit to the parent paying the support or to the court, or both, at such times as the court requires, an accounting of expenditures made from the child support received and evidence of these expenditures as the court requires."/

Amend title to conform.

Renumber sections to conform.

Rep. NEILSON moved to table the amendment, which was agreed to.

Reps. JENNINGS and THOMAS proposed the following Amendment No. 17 (Doc Name L:\council\legis\amend\BR1\18228AC.95), which was tabled.

Amend the bill, as and if amended, Part IV, Section 1, by adding at the end:

/(9) The recipient resides in an economically depressed county, as defined by the Department of Commerce, and can establish by clear and convincing evidence to the department that the recipient has fully complied with the recipient's agreement with the department including:

(a) diligently seeking all available employment and following up on all employment opportunities known to the Employment Security Commission or related state agencies for which the recipient is qualified;

(b) demonstrating a willingness to relocate as provided in Part III, Section 4;


Printed Page 1196 . . . . . Wednesday, March 1, 1995

(c) cooperating fully with all state agencies in order to strive to become gainfully employed;

and the department is satisfied that no available employment reasonably exists for the recipient and that there is no other means of support reasonably available to the recipient's family. Every sixty days the department shall conduct a review of the recipient's compliance with the requirements of this item, and assistance extended pursuant to this item only may be extended for an additional twelve months./

Amend title to conform.

Rep. JENNINGS moved to table the amendment, which was agreed to.

Rep. JENNINGS proposed the following Amendment No. 18 (Doc Name L:\council\legis\amend\BR1\18227AC.95), which was tabled.

Amend the bill, as and if amended, Part IV, Section 1, by adding at the end:

/(9) The recipient resides in an economically depressed county, as defined by the Department of Commerce, and can establish by clear and convincing evidence to the department that the recipient has fully complied with the recipient's agreement with the department including:

(a) diligently seeking all available employment and following up on all employment opportunities known to the Employment Security Commission or related state agencies for which the recipient is qualified;

(b) demonstrating a willingness to relocate as provided in Part III, Section 4;

(c) cooperating fully with all state agencies in order to strive to become gainfully employed;

and the department is satisfied that no available employment reasonably exists for the recipient and that there is no other means of support reasonably available to the recipient's family. Every sixty days the department shall conduct a review of the recipient's compliance with the requirements of this item./

Amend title to conform.

Rep. JENNINGS moved to table the amendment, which was agreed to.

Rep. FAIR proposed the following Amendment No. 20 (Doc Name L:\council\legis\amend\BR1\18223AC.95), which was tabled.

Amend the bill, as and if amended, Part V, Section 6, page 3613-11, by inserting after /./ on line 12 /Additionally, information concerning fetal


Printed Page 1197 . . . . . Wednesday, March 1, 1995

development, birth parent services, and adoption must be provided to AFDC recipients./

Amend further, Part VI, Section 1, page 3613-12, by inserting before /"/ on line 26 /Additionally information concerning birth parent services and adoption must be provided to the parents and grandparents./

Renumber sections to conform,

Amend title to conform.

Rep. FAIR moved to table the amendment, which was agreed to.

Rep. RICHARDSON proposed the following Amendment No. 41 (Doc Name L:\council\legis\amend\DKA\3754AC.95), which was tabled.

Amend the bill, as and if amended, Part IV, Section 1, by adding at the end:

/(9) The recipient can establish by clear and convincing evidence to the department that the recipient has fully complied with the recipient's agreement with the department including:

(a) diligently seeking all available employment and following up on all employment opportunities known to the Employment Security Commission or related state agencies for which the recipient is qualified;

(b) demonstrating a willingness to relocate as provided in Part III, Section 4;

(c) cooperating fully with all state agencies in order to strive to become gainfully employed;

and the department is satisfied that no available employment reasonably exists for the recipient and that there is no other means of support reasonably available to the recipient's family. Every sixty days the department shall conduct a review of a recipient's compliance with the requirements of this item, and assistance extended pursuant to this item may be extended for not more than sixty months./

Renumber items to conform.

Amend title to conform.

Rep. RICHARDSON moved to table the amendment, which was agreed to.

Reps. NEAL, L. WHIPPER, G. BROWN, INABINETT, SHISSIAS, WILLIAMS, T. BROWN, CANTY and COBB-HUNTER spoke against the Bill.

Reps. CROMER, HODGES, HARWELL and BEATTY spoke in favor of the Bill.


Printed Page 1198 . . . . . Wednesday, March 1, 1995

The question then recurred to the passage of the Bill, as amended, on second reading.

Rep. HARRISON demanded the yeas and nays, which were taken resulting as follows:

Yeas 93; Nays 22

Those who voted in the affirmative are:

Allison          Askins           Bailey
Baxley           Beatty           Boan
Brown, H.        Brown, T.        Cain
Carnell          Cato             Chamblee
Clyburn          Cooper           Cotty
Cromer           Dantzler         Davenport
Delleney         Easterday        Elliott
Fair             Fleming          Fulmer
Gamble           Hallman          Harrell
Harris, J.       Harris, P.       Harrison
Harvin           Harwell          Haskins
Herdklotz        Hodges           Huff
Hutson           Jennings         Keegan
Kelley           Keyserling       Kinon
Kirsh            Klauber          Knotts
Koon             Lanford          Law
Limbaugh         Limehouse        Littlejohn
Marchbanks       Martin           Mason
McCraw           McElveen         McMahand
McTeer           Meacham          Neilson
Phillips         Quinn            Rice
Richardson       Robinson         Rogers
Sandifer         Sharpe           Sheheen
Simrill          Smith, D.        Smith, R.
Spearman         Stille           Stuart
Thomas           Townsend         Tripp
Trotter          Vaughn           Waldrop
Walker           Wells            Whatley
Wilder           Wilkes           Wilkins
Witherspoon      Wofford          Worley
Wright           Young, A.        Young, J.

Total--93


Printed Page 1199 . . . . . Wednesday, March 1, 1995

Those who voted in the negative are:
Anderson         Breeland         Brown, G.
Brown, J.        Byrd             Canty
Cave             Cobb-Hunter      Govan
Hines            Howard           Inabinett
Kennedy          McAbee           Moody-Lawrence
Neal             Scott            Shissias
Whipper, L.      Whipper, S.      White
Williams

Total--22

So, the Bill, as amended, was read the second time and ordered to third reading.

PAIRED

Lloyd (Present) Nay

Rhoad (Absent) Aye

STATEMENT ON H. 3613

While much of this Bill is based on progressive welfare reform efforts begun last legislative session, I cannot in good conscience support this Bill given the punitive nature of several of its provisions. These provisions, namely the time limit and the denial of additional payments for additional children, will adversely impact the most vulnerable segments of our society. Furthermore, it fails to adequately address comprehensive family planning and a "safety net" for those who are compliant, but for no fault of their own, cannot secure employment. The long term impact of this legislation will not be self-sufficiency and family preservation. Its legacy will be increased abortions, more crime, family disintegration due to increased abuse and neglect of children.

Rep. GILDA COBB-HUNTER

STATEMENT FOR HOUSE JOURNAL

After fully considering the impact and ramifications of H. 3613 and the many amendments that were placed on the desk and considered by the House, I have come to the conclusion that I cannot support this Bill. I must admit the H. 3613 contains facts and information that I do agree with, but the overall impact on the many citizens that I represent in District 50 will be of such magnitude that I cannot support the Bill.


| Printed Page 1180, Mar. 1 | Printed Page 1200, Mar. 1 |

Page Finder Index