Journal of the House of Representatives
of the First Session of the 111th General Assembly
of the State of South Carolina
being the Regular Session Beginning Tuesday, January 10, 1995

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PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY

Rep. McTEER inquired whether the ruling that would be in the Journal would be word for word or just the Speaker sustaining the Point.

The SPEAKER stated that he would review it and make sure it accurately stated his position.

Rep. McTEER then inquired if it had been recorded.

The SPEAKER stated that it had and he would review the Point of Order and make sure it accurately stated his position before it was sent to the printer.

POINT OF ORDER

Rep. McTEER raised the Point of Order that Amendment No. 14 was out of order as it was not germane in that the bonds had not been sold yet.

Rep. SHEHEEN argued contra the point in stating that it had been authorized by statute and this would cancel 15 million dollars worth of authorization.

Rep. McTEER further stated that there was nothing there to retire and there was money going out there, but no bonds had been sold and there was no place for it to go.

The SPEAKER asked whether the Point was being raised because it referred to a potential indebtedness that was in the future and did not now exist. He stated that Section 11-11-410 had a direct authorization for using surplus appropriations for bonds which are authorized but not yet issued and for that reason he overruled the Point of Order.

Rep. SHEHEEN continued speaking.

Reps. H. BROWN and FELDER spoke against the amendment.

Rep. H. BROWN moved to table the amendment.

Rep. SHEHEEN demanded the yeas and nays, which were taken resulting as follows:

Yeas 82; Nays 30

Those who voted in the affirmative are:

Allison          Bailey           Baxley
Boan             Brown, H.        Cain
Carnell          Cato             Cave
Chamblee         Cooper           Cotty
Dantzler         Davenport        Easterday
Fair             Felder           Fleming
Fulmer           Gamble           Hallman

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Harrell          Harris, P.       Harrison
Harvin           Harwell          Haskins
Herdklotz        Huff             Hutson
Keegan           Kelley           Kennedy
Keyserling       Kinon            Klauber
Knotts           Koon             Lanford
Law              Limbaugh         Limehouse
Littlejohn       Lloyd            Marchbanks
McAbee           McKay            McTeer
Meacham          Neal             Phillips
Quinn            Rhoad            Rice
Richardson       Riser            Robinson
Sandifer         Scott            Seithel
Sharpe           Shissias         Simrill
Smith, D.        Smith, R.        Stuart
Tripp            Trotter          Tucker
Vaughn           Walker           Wells
Whatley          Whipper, S.      White
Wilkins          Witherspoon      Wofford
Worley           Wright           Young, A.
Young, J.

Total--82

Those who voted in the negative are:

Anderson         Beatty           Breeland
Brown, G.        Brown, T.        Byrd
Clyburn          Cromer           Delleney
Harris, J.       Hines            Howard
Inabinett        Jennings         Kirsh
Martin           McCraw           McElveen
McMahand         Moody-Lawrence   Neilson
Rogers           Sheheen          Spearman
Stille           Stoddard         Thomas
Townsend         Wilder           Williams

Total--30

So, the amendment was tabled.


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Reps. McELVEEN, KEYSERLING, CANTY, J. YOUNG, G. BROWN, NEAL, LLOYD and WHITE proposed the following Amendment No. 15 (Doc Name L:\council\legis\amend\JIC\5314HTC.95), which was tabled.

Amend the joint resolution, as and if amended, page 2, by striking SECTION 3 and inserting:

/SECTION 3. From funds appropriated for the Technical Education Commission Section 3 of this joint resolution, one million dollars must be set aside and made available to the Office of Local Government of the State Budget and Control Board for use in ensuring that military bases and any other national defense facilities in this State are not adversely impacted by the Defense Base Closure and Realignment Act of 1990 (P.L. 101-510). These funds may be expended pursuant to criteria developed by the board. Unexpended funds from this setaside revert to the use of the Technical Education Commission.

SECTION 4. This joint resolution takes effect upon approval by the Governor./

Amend totals and title to conform.

Rep. KEYSERLING explained the amendment.

Rep. H. BROWN moved to table the amendment.

Rep. KEYSERLING demanded the yeas and nays, which were taken resulting as follows:

Yeas 74; Nays 30

Those who voted in the affirmative are:

Allison          Anderson         Bailey
Baxley           Brown, H.        Brown, J.
Cain             Carnell          Cato
Chamblee         Cooper           Cotty
Cromer           Dantzler         Davenport
Delleney         Easterday        Fair
Fleming          Fulmer           Gamble
Hallman          Harrell          Harris, J.
Harris, P.       Harrison         Harwell
Haskins          Herdklotz        Howard
Jennings         Keegan           Kelley
Kinon            Kirsh            Klauber
Knotts           Koon             Law
Limbaugh         Limehouse        Littlejohn


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Marchbanks       McAbee           Meacham
Quinn            Rhoad            Rice
Riser            Robinson         Sandifer
Seithel          Sharpe           Sheheen
Shissias         Simrill          Smith, R.
Stille           Stuart           Townsend
Tripp            Trotter          Tucker
Vaughn           Walker           Wells
Whatley          Wilkins          Williams
Witherspoon      Wofford          Worley
Wright           Young, A.

Total--74

Those who voted in the negative are:

Breeland         Brown, G.        Brown, T.
Byrd             Clyburn          Harvin
Hines            Hodges           Inabinett
Kennedy          Keyserling       Lloyd
Martin           McCraw           McElveen
McTeer           Moody-Lawrence   Neal
Phillips         Richardson       Rogers
Scott            Smith, D.        Spearman
Stoddard         Thomas           Whipper, S.
White            Wilder           Young, J.

Total--30

So, the amendment was tabled.

Reps. McELVEEN, KEYSERLING and RICHARDSON proposed the following Amendment No. 17, which was tabled.

Amend the joint resolution by adding an appropriately numbered Section, as follows:

Section _____. One million ($1,000,000) dollars shall be held back from the funds appropriated in Section 1, Item (7) for the Clemson-PSA Garrison Livestock Arena and made available to the Office of Local Government of the State Budget and Control Board, for use in insuring that military bases and any other national defense facilities in this State are not adversely impacted by the Defense Base Closure and Realignment Act of 1990 (P.L. 101-510). These funds may be expended pursuant to


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criteria developed by the Board. Unexpended funds from this setaside revert to the purposes stated in the aforesaid Section 1, Item (7). To the extent that funds are appropriated in the 1995-96 General Appropriations Act for insuring the continuation of defense facilities in this State, the setaside funds shall likewise revert to the purposes stated in the aforesaid Section 1, Item (7).

Amend sections to conform.

Amend totals and title to conform.

Rep. McELVEEN explained the amendment.

Rep. ROBINSON moved to table the amendment.

Rep. McELVEEN demanded the yeas and nays, which were taken resulting as follows:

Yeas 67; Nays 31

Those who voted in the affirmative are:

Allison          Bailey           Baxley
Brown, H.        Brown, J.        Cain
Carnell          Cato             Chamblee
Cooper           Cotty            Cromer
Dantzler         Davenport        Delleney
Easterday        Gamble           Harris, J.
Harris, P.       Harrison         Haskins
Herdklotz        Hines            Keegan
Kelley           Kinon            Klauber
Knotts           Koon             Law
Limehouse        Littlejohn       Marchbanks
Martin           McAbee           McCraw
McKay            Phillips         Quinn
Rhoad            Rice             Riser
Robinson         Sandifer         Sharpe
Sheheen          Shissias         Smith, R.
Spearman         Stille           Stoddard
Stuart           Thomas           Tripp
Trotter          Tucker           Vaughn
Walker           Wells            Whatley
Wilder           Wilkins          Witherspoon


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Wofford          Worley           Wright
Young, A.

Total--67

Those who voted in the negative are:

Anderson         Beatty           Breeland
Brown, G.        Cave             Clyburn
Fulmer           Govan            Hallman
Harrell          Harvin           Howard
Hutson           Kennedy          Keyserling
Kirsh            Limbaugh         McElveen
McTeer           Meacham          Moody-Lawrence
Neal             Richardson       Rogers
Seithel          Simrill          Smith, D.
Whipper, L.      Whipper, S.      Williams
Young, J.

Total--31

So, the amendment was tabled.

Reps. LITTLEJOHN, CATO, CHAMBLEE, HALLMAN, COOPER, DAVENPORT, MEACHAM, VAUGHN, CAIN, EASTERDAY, HASKINS, RICE, A. YOUNG, STODDARD, SIMRILL, LANFORD, WHATLEY, McCRAW, TROTTER, TRIPP, KOON, D. SMITH, QUINN, SHARPE, WRIGHT, WITHERSPOON and KNOTTS proposed the following Amendment No. 18 (Doc Name L:\council\legis\amend\JIC\5362HTC.95), which was rejected.

Amend the joint resolution, as and if amended, by adding an appropriately numbered SECTION to read:

/SECTION ___. All portraits, flags, banners, monuments, statues, and plaques which may be removed from the State House pursuant to the renovations partially funded by this joint resolution must be returned to their original location when the State House is reoccupied unless the General Assembly shall otherwise direct. An amount not to exceed five


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thousand dollars of the sum appropriated in SECTION 1(1) of this joint resolution must be used for this purpose./

Renumber sections to conform.

Amend totals and title to conform.

Rep. LITTLEJOHN explained the amendment.

Rep. QUINN spoke in favor of the amendment.

POINT OF ORDER

Rep. BEATTY raised the Point of Order that Amendment No. 18 was out of order as it was not germane.

Rep. QUINN stated that it directly appropriated a portion of the money.

Rep. BEATTY stated that from the previous ruling he understood that you could not change existing law in the Appropriations Bill.

The SPEAKER stated that he cited a precedent from March, 1991, by Speaker Sheheen in which he stated that and he used that as a basis. He further stated that that ruling had stated that you could not change existing law in the Appropriations Bill unless it directly related to the expenditure of funds. He further stated that the significant distinction in the two amendments was that this one directly referred to a dollar amount appropriating $5,000 that is to be used for this purpose and, therefore, it met the criteria that had been set forth and had been referred to in earlier precedents. He further stated that this did directly relate to expenditures and that he had found another precedent in which the Speaker stated that Rule 5.3 had a much more loose interpretation on inclusion of Part I of the Appropriations Bill than Part II and obviously this was in effect Part I appropriations and the fact that it is a direct dollar amount made it germane and he overruled the Point of Order.

Rep. LITTLEJOHN moved to table the amendment.

Rep. QUINN demanded the yeas and nays, which were taken resulting as follows:

Yeas 47; Nays 65

Those who voted in the affirmative are:

Allison          Anderson         Baxley
Beatty           Breeland         Brown, J.
Brown, T.        Byrd             Cave
Clyburn          Cobb-Hunter      Cotty
Cromer           Govan            Harvin


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Hines            Hodges           Howard
Inabinett        Jennings         Keegan
Kelley           Kennedy          Keyserling
Littlejohn       Lloyd            Martin
McAbee           McElveen         McMahand
McTeer           Moody-Lawrence   Neal
Richardson       Rogers           Scott
Sheheen          Spearman         Stille
Thomas           Wells            Whipper, L.
Whipper, S.      White            Wilder
Williams         Young, J.

Total--47

Those who voted in the negative are:

Boan             Brown, H.        Cain
Carnell          Cato             Chamblee
Cooper           Dantzler         Davenport
Delleney         Easterday        Fair
Fleming          Fulmer           Gamble
Hallman          Harrell          Harris, J.
Harris, P.       Harrison         Haskins
Herdklotz        Hutson           Kinon
Kirsh            Klauber          Knotts
Koon             Lanford          Law
Limbaugh         Limehouse        Marchbanks
McCraw           McKay            Meacham
Neilson          Phillips         Quinn
Rhoad            Rice             Riser
Robinson         Sandifer         Seithel
Shissias         Simrill          Smith, D.
Smith, R.        Stoddard         Stuart
Townsend         Tripp            Trotter
Tucker           Vaughn           Waldrop
Walker           Whatley          Wilkins
Witherspoon      Wofford          Worley
Wright           Young, A.

Total--65

So, the House refused to table the amendment.


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Rep. BEATTY spoke against the amendment.

Rep. LITTLEJOHN spoke in favor of the amendment.

Rep. COBB-HUNTER spoke against the amendment.

POINT OF ORDER

Rep. FELDER raised the Point of Order that Amendment No. 18 was out of order as it violated Section 11-11-140 in that it dealt with 1993-94 appropriations and the effect of this Act would be over with before the renovations were complete and, therefore, it did not directly affect an appropriation in that year. He further stated that the Joint Resolution would only be valid for this year and would not be in effect after July 1.

The SPEAKER stated that it dealt with the 17 million dollars in the Joint Resolution set forth for the State House renovations and he overruled the Point of Order.

Rep. HASKINS spoke upon the amendment.

LEAVE OF ABSENCE

The SPEAKER granted Rep. J. BROWN a leave of absence for the remainder of the day.

The question then recurred to the adoption of the amendment, which was rejected.

Rep. KEYSERLING proposed the following Amendment No. 20, which was tabled.

As and if amended, by
Section 1 page 1

Item (1) line 22 by striking /17,000,000/

and inserting /16,800,000/

Item (2) line 26 by striking /5,000,000/

and inserting /4,800,000/

Item (3) line 29 by striking /3,775,731/

by inserting /3,575,731/

Item (5) line 35 by striking /4,600,000/

by inserting /4,400,000/

Item (7) line 40 by striking /1,900,000/

by inserting /1,700,000/

Page 2 after line by inserting an appropriately numbered item:

B & C Board - Military Base and National Defense Facilities Impact Fund 1,000,000


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At the discretion of the Budget and Control Board, any funds not used from the Military Base and National Defense Facilities Impact Fund shall be proportionately distributed for the following

(1) BCB-Division of

Operations

Statehouse Renovations

(2) Coordinating Council

for Economic Development

Economic Development

Projects

(3) Technical Education

Commission

Special Schools

(4) Forestry Commission

Firefighting

Equipment

(5) Clemson-PSA

Garrison Livestock Arena/

Rep. KEYSERLING explained the amendment.

Rep. H. BROWN moved to table the amendment.

Rep. McELVEEN demanded the yeas and nays, which were not ordered.

The amendment was then tabled by a division vote of 69 to 18.

Rep. McELVEEN proposed the following Amendment No. 24, which was tabled.

The Budget and Control Board, in its discretion, shall withhold one million ($1,000,000) from the funds appropriated in this joint resolution for use in insuring that military bases and any other national defense facilities in this State are not adversely impacted by the Defense Base Closure and Realignment Act (P.L. 101-510). These funds may be expended pursuant to criteria developed by the board. Unexpended funds from this setaside revert to the uses stated in Section 1 on June 30, 1995, unless the board sooner certifies that the funds are not needed to protect defense facilities in this State.

Renumber sections to conform.

Amend totals and title to conform.

Rep. McELVEEN explained the amendment.


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