South Carolina General Assembly
112th Session, 1997-1998
Journal of the Senate

Friday, April 24, 1998
(Local Session)

Indicates Matter Stricken
Indicates New Matter

The Senate assembled at 11:00 A.M., the hour to which it stood adjourned, and was called to order by the ACTING PRESIDENT, Senator COURSON.

REPORT RECEIVED
COMMITTEE TO SCREEN CANDIDATES
FOR BOARDS OF TRUSTEES
OF STATE COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES

MEMORANDUM TO:     Clerk of the House
Clerk of the Senate
RE:                     Transcript of Hearings
In compliance with the provisions of Act 119 of 1975, it is respectfully requested that the following information be printed in the Journals of the Senate and the House.

Respectfully submitted,
Olin Phillips
Chairman

Pursuant to Act 119 of 1975, the Committee to Screen Candidates for Boards of Trustees of State Colleges and Universities was convened to consider the qualifications of candidates seeking to fill certain positions on boards of trustees of the state's colleges and universities. The committee conducts such investigation of each candidate as it deems appropriate and reports its findings to the General Assembly prior to the election. It is not the function of the Committee to recommend one candidate over another or to suggest to the individual legislator for whom to vote. The purpose of the committee is instead to determine whether a candidate is qualified and under the statute, the committee's determination in that regard is not binding upon the General Assembly. The candidates are:
The Citadel (1 seat)
at-large                       Col. William E. Jenkinson, III*

(Kingstree)
Clemson University (3 seats)
at-large                       Harold Doug Kingsmore* (Aiken)
 Patti McAbee* (McCormick)
Joseph D. Swann* (Greenville)
Harry Bell (Ward)
Howard Rawl   (Gilbert)
Coastal Carolina University(1 seat)
1st District, Seat 2               Robert Lee Rabon (Conway)
Vanessa Greene (Georgetown)
College of Charleston (8 seats)
1st District, Seat 1               Joseph F. Thompson, Jr. (Mt. Pleasant)
2nd District, Seat 3             Charlotte Berry* (Columbia)
3rd District, Seat 5               Anne T. Sheppard* (Laurens)
4th District, Seat 7               Robert S. Small, Jr.* (Greenville)
5th District, Seat 9               F. C. McMaster* (Winnsboro)
6th District, Seat 11             J. David Watson* (Dillon)
at-large, Seat 13                 Thomas W. Weeks* (Barnwell)
at-large, Seat 15                 John F. Clark, III* (Columbia)
Francis Marion University (9 seats)
1st District, Seat 1               Worth Roberts (Charleston)
1st District, Seat 2**             Melissa N. Johnson (Myrtle Beach)
2nd District, Seat 3             James R. Courie* (Columbia)
2nd District, Seat 3             Thomas C. Griffin, Jr. (Columbia)
3rd District, Seat 5               Carolyn B. Shortt* (Laurens)
3rd District, Seat 5               Jody Lipford (Laurens)
4th District, Seat 7               H. Randall Dozier* (Greenville)
4th District, Seat 7               Marian E. Strobel (Greer)
5th District, Seat 9               W. C. Stanton* (Cheraw)
5th District, Seat 9               M. David Shaw (Sumter)
6th District, Seat 11             Peter D. Hyman* (Florence)
6th District, Seat 11             Ralph U. Davis (Darlington)
at-large, Seat 13                 Dianne Herrington* (Marion)
at-large, Seat 13                 Alfred H. Agnew (Mullins)
at-large, Seat 13                 Robert E. Lee (Florence)
at-large, Seat 15                 Allard A. Allston* (Florence)
at-large, Seat 15                 Laura Crawford (Florence)
at-large, Seat 15                 Kenneth Jackson (Florence)
Lander University (8 seats)
1st District, Seat 1               Darlene N. Hyman* (Surfside Beach)
2nd District, Seat 3             Maurice Holloway* (West Columbia)
3rd District, Seat 5               William G. Stevens* (Greenwood)
4th District, Seat 7               Martha S. Whitener* (Union)
 5th District, Seat 9               Glenn J. Lawhon, Jr.* (Hartsville)
6th District, Seat 11             Morgan B. Coker* (Florence)
at-large, seat 13                 Ray Hunt (Columbia)
at-large, seat 13                 Craig White (Greenwood)
at-large, seat 15                 Bobby M. Bowers* (Columbia)
Medical University of South Carolina (6 seats)
1st District, medical profession     Donald R. Johnson, II, M.D.*

(Mt. Pleasant)
2nd District, medical profession   Thomas C. Rowland, Jr., M.D.*

(Columbia)
3rd District, medical profession   Stanley C. Baker, Jr., M.D.*

(Greenwood)
4th District, non-medical         Thomas L. Stephenson (Greenville)
4th District, non-medical         John P. Edwards (Travelers Rest)
5th District, non-medical         Robert C. Lake, Jr.* (Belton)
6th District, non-medical         Margaret Addison, B.A.* (Holly Hill)
South Carolina State (6 seats)
2nd District, Seat 2**           Samuel Glover (Columbia)
3rd District, Seat 3               Charles C. Lewis, Sr.* (Anderson)
3rd District, Seat 3               Dorothea Taylor (Ridge Spring)
6th District, Seat 6**             Eleazer Carter (Columbia)
6th District, Seat 6               Edward C. Keith (Manning)
6th District, Seat 6               Monnique Singleton (Denmark)
6th District, Seat 6               Joan S. McLeod (Pinewood)
6th District, Seat 6               Rose Hilliard-Wilder (Manning)
at-large, Seat 7                 Charles H. Williams, II* (Orangeburg)
at-large, Seat 7                 Martha Scott Smith (Columbia)
at-large, Seat 8**               John Skolds (Columbia)
at-large, Seat 8                 Charles H. Johnson (Orangeburg)
at-large, Seat 8                 Moses E. Brown (Orangeburg)
at-large, Seat 8                 Sharon Wigfall (Mt. Pleasant)
at-large, Seat 9                 Leroy Mosely, Jr.* (Columbia)
University of South Carolina (8 seats)
1st Judicial Circuit               Othniel Wienges, Jr.* (St. Matthews)
3rd Judicial Circuit             Arthur S. Bahnmuller* (Sumter)
5th Judicial Circuit             William C. Hubbard* (Columbia)
7th Judicial Circuit             Toney J. Lister* (Spartanburg)
9th Judicial Circuit             John von Lehe, Jr. (Charleston)
9th Judicial Circuit             Edward K. Pritchard (Charleston)
11th Judicial Circuit             Michael J. Mungo* (Columbia)
 12th Judicial Circuit             C. Edward Floyd* (Florence)
13th Judicial Circuit             Mack I. Whittle, Jr.* (Greenville)
Wil Lou Gray Opportunity School (1 seat)
at-large                       Deborah Lynn Ammons (Irmo)
Winthrop University (2 seats)
at-large                       Robert Gahagan* (Blythewood)
Sanita Savage* (West Columbia)
E. Thomas Crowson (Rock Hill)
* incumbent
** unexpired term

Respectfully submitted,
/s/Rep. Olin Phillips, Chrm.       /s/Sen. Addison "Joe" Wilson, V-Chrm.
/s/Rep. Curtis B. Inabinett, Sec.   /s/Sen. Warren K. Giese
/s/Rep. Lanny F. Littlejohn       /s/Sen. Maggie W. Glover
/s/Rep. Eugene S. Stoddard       /s/Sen. James E. Bryan, Jr.

COMMITTEE TO SCREEN CANDIDATES
FOR BOARDS OF TRUSTEES
OF STATE COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES
TRANSCRIPT OF SCREENING
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Thursday, March 26, 1998
2:00 p.m. to 2:30 p.m.

The Committee Screening of Candidates for Boards of Trustees of State Colleges and Universities, taken on behalf of the Committee at Room 427, Blatt Building, 1105 Pendleton Street, Columbia, South Carolina, on the 26th day of March, 1998 before Jennifer L. Lester, Court Reporter and Notary Public in and for the State of South Carolina.

IN ATTENDANCE:
Representative Eugene C. Stoddard, Chairman
Representative Curtis B. Inabinett
Representative Lanny F. Littlejohn
Representative Olin Phillips
Mrs. Sophia Floyd, Secretary

MR. CHAIRMAN: Committee come to order, please. Time having arrived. I think we're going to have some of the Senators ... I understand they're fussing about something over there. We certainly appreciate you all coming. On behalf of the State of South Carolina, the Committee would certainly like to thank each and everyone of you for offering your services. Because, you know, it's a very underpaid job that you do. I'd like to make a motion when I get back to the House that we double you all's pay. We have with us, on my left, Representative Olin Phillips, Representative Lanny Littlejohn, Representative Curtis Inabinett and we have our able secretary, Mrs. Sophia Floyd. And I'm Gene Stoddard. The Chair will entertain a motion at this time to excuse the unopposed candidates so we might proceed to dig into the past of those that are opposed.
REP. INABINETT: I so move, Mr. Chairman.
REP. PHILLIPS: Second.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Inabinett moves; Mr. Phillips seconds. All in favor say "Aye".
COMMITTEE: Aye.
MR. CHAIRMAN: No opposed. The Aye's have it. You may leave at any time or you may stay to observe. First on our Agenda this afternoon is Lander University. We have only one seat that is opposed. First we have ... we'd like to hear from Ray Hunt. If you'd step forward, please, sir, to the microphone. RAY HUNT, being duly sworn, testifies as follows:
MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Hunt, do you have any health related problems that the screening committee should be made aware of that would prevent you from serving on the Board in a full capacity?
A:   No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Considering your present occupation and other activities, would you be able to attend Board meetings on a regular basis?
A:   Yes, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any interests, professionally or personally, that present a conflict of interest because of your service on the Board?
A:   No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you now hold any position of honor or trust that if elected to the Board will cause you to violate the dual office clause of the Constitution?
A:   No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Any questions of the gentleman?
COMMITTEE: No response.
MR. CHAIRMAN: You've all reviewed his background. Thank you for coming, Mr. Hunt.
 A:   Thank you.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Next, we have Craig White. CRAIG WHITE, being duly sworn, testifies as follows:
MR. CHAIRMAN: Sir, do you have any health related problems that the screening committee should be made aware of that would prevent you from serving on the Board in a full capacity?
A:   No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Considering your present occupation and other activities, would you be able to attend Board meetings on a regular basis?
A:   Yes, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any interests, professionally or personally, that present a conflict of interest because of your service on the Board?
A:   No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you now hold any public position of honor or trust that if elected to the Board will cause you to violate the dual office holding clause of the Constitution?
A:   No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Any questions of the gentleman? Looks like everything is in order. Thank you, sir.
A:   Thank you.
MR. CHAIRMAN: That completes the Lander candidates. We now go to the Medical University of South Carolina. Contest being in the 4th District, non-medical. First, we have Mr. Thomas L. Stephenson.
THOMAS L. STEPHENSON, being duly sworn, testifies as follows:
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any health related problems that the screening committee should be made aware of that would prevent you from serving on the Board in a full capacity?
A:   No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Considering your present occupation and other activities, would you be able to attend Board meetings on a regular basis?
A:   Yes, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any interests, professionally or personally, that present a conflict of interest because of your service on the Board?
A:   No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you now hold any public position of honor or trust that if elected to the Board would cause you to violate the dual office holding clause of the Constitution?
A:   I do not.
 MR. CHAIRMAN: Any questions of the gentleman?
REP. LITTLEJOHN: Mr. Chairman, I have one about the Greenville ... I think Mr. Stephenson works for the Greenville Civil Service?
A:   Yes, sir, I do.
MR. LITTLEJOHN: That's appointed or ...
A:   That's an appointed commission seat. And to tell you the truth, I never thought about that. The Greenville Civil Service Commission overseas the fire department and the police department. It's a volunteer type board. When the fire department or the police department terminates a policeman, he has the right to file a grievance and we hear that. When certain positions are filled, i.e., the police chief, the fire chief, we decide on that and make recommendations to the City Council. It never occurred to me that that might violate the constitutional provision on dual office holding. I don't know. I don't think it would.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Does it pay anything?
A:   No, sir. It does not.
MR. CHAIRMAN: You're appointed by whom? Council?
A:   I was appointed by Council, yes, sir, City council for the City of Greenville.
MR. CHAIRMAN: We'll get an Attorney General's opinion on that.
A:   I'm sure there's an answer, probably a very clearly answer ...
MR. CHAIRMAN: It may not be, but then again, you know ...
A:   Yes, sir.
MR. PHILLIPS: Mr. Chairman, I would like to ask a question. Do you take a sworn testimony on that ... are you sworn into office?
A:   You know, I don't recall. I don't recall whether I was. But thinking back on it, I would almost have to have been sworn in. You know, it is a body of the City of Greenville and I cannot imagine serving on that without taking some sort of an oath. So, the answer, although I have no recollection of it, would probably be yes.
MR. CHAIRMAN: If you were elected would you resign that position if it was a dual office holding?
A:   I would.
MR. CHAIRMAN: All right, sir. Thank you, sir.
A:   Thank you.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Next, we go to Mr. John P. Edwards. JOHN P. EDWARDS, being duly sworn, testifies as follows:
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any health related problems that the screening committee should be made aware of that would prevent you from serving on the Board in a full capacity?
 A:   No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Considering your present occupation and other activities, would you be able to attend Board meetings on a regular basis?
A:   Yes, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any interests, professionally or personally, that present a conflict of interest because of your service on the Board?
A:   No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you now hold any public position of honor or trust that if elected to the Board would cause you to violate the dual office holding clause of the Constitution?
A:   No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Any question of the gentleman?
MR. LITTLEJOHN: Mr. Chairman, I would bring up the same point with regard to elected or appointed public offices. On Mr. Edwards's application, it's ... the county transportation committee, and that would need to be questioned, I believe, or as given an opinion on it.
A:   I have resigned from that. I resigned probably back before Christmas.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Well, that clarifies that. Any other questions of the gentleman?
MR. LITTLEJOHN: Mr. Chairman, he serves as the Insurance Commissioner appointed by Secretary of State Miles? That's at the present?
A:   No, that was in the past too.
MR. LITTLEJOHN: It says to '98.
A:   No, that's wrong. They turned the Insurance Commission over to the Governor in '96.
MR. LITTLEJOHN: The dates on that's '94 to ...
A:   Probably '95 or '96.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Any other questions? Appreciate you coming, sir.
A:   Thank you.
MR. CHAIRMAN: We move from there to South Carolina State University. Our first contested seat is 3rd District, Seat 3. Charles Lewis, Sr. Is Mr. Lewis not here? John P. Edwards.
A:   Yes, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Yes, sir. Oh, I'm sorry, I read ...Dorothea Taylor.
DOROTHEA TAYLOR, being duly sworn, testifies as follows:
 MR. CHAIRMAN: Ms. Taylor, do you have any health related problems that the screening committee should be made aware of that would prevent you from serving on the Board in a full capacity?
A:   No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Considering your present occupation and other activities, would you be able to attend Board meetings on a regular basis?
A:   Yes.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any interests, professionally or personally, that present a conflict of interest because of your service on the Board?
A:   No.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you now hold any public position of honor or trust that if elected to the Board would cause you to violate the dual office holding clause of the Constitution?
A:   No.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Any questions of the lady? Gentlemen? Thank you, ma'am, appreciate you coming. Next, we have the 6th District, Seat 6, Eleazer Carter. Mr. Carter, did I pronounce that right?
MR. CARTER: No, sir, it's Eleazer.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Eleazer.
MR. CARTER: That's fine. Everybody else says Eleazer.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Well, if you get this job, you're going to be called other things, too.
MR. CARTER: I have been in the past.
ELEAZER CARTER, being duly sworn, testifies as follows:
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any health related problems ...
A:   None whatsoever.
MR. CHAIRMAN: ... that the screening committee should be made aware of that would prevent you from serving on the Board in a full capacity?
A:   I have none whatsoever.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Considering your present occupation and other activities, would you be able to attend Board meetings on a regular basis?
A:   Yes, sir, I will.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any interests, professionally or personally, that present a conflict of interest because of your service on the Board?
A:   None whatsoever.
 MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you now hold any public position of honor or trust that if elected to the Board would cause you to violate the dual office holding clause of the Constitution?
A:   I presently hold a position of school board member down in Clarendon School District One. I am in an appointed position.
MR. CHAIRMAN: What is your intentions if you are elected, do you ...
A:   I would resign that position if it presents a conflict.
MR. CHAIRMAN: I see. Any questions of the gentleman? Thank you, sir. Next, we have Edward C. Keith. I believe he called in and said that he was running late. Joan S. McLeod.
JOAN S. MCLEOD, being duly sworn, testifies as follows:
MR. CHAIRMAN: Ma'am, do you have any health related problems that the screening committee should be made aware of that would prevent you from serving on the Board in a full capacity?
A:   No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Considering your present occupation and other activities, would you be able to attend Board meetings on a regular basis?
A:   Yes, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any interests, professionally or personally, that present a conflict of interest because of your service on the Board?
A:   No.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you now hold any public position of honor or trust that if elected to the Board would cause you to violate the dual office holding clause of the Constitution?
A:   No.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Any questions of the lady?
MR. LITTLEJOHN: Mr. Chairman, the appointed or elected office, she is a DSS Sumter County Board Member. Would that be a conflict?
MR. CHAIRMAN: I believe that would be a conflict.
A:   It's appointed.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Honor or trust. Yes, ma'am, we could clarify that.
A:   Okay.
MR. CHAIRMAN: But, if it were a conflict and you were elected, you would ...
A:   I would resign.
MR. CHAIRMAN: You'd resign that position. Any other questions? Thank you so much, ma'am.
A:   Thanks.
 MR. CHAIRMAN: At-large, Seat 7, Charles H. Williams, II.
CHARLES H. WILLIAMS, II, being duly sworn, testifies as follows:
A:   Good afternoon.
MR. CHAIRMAN: How are you, sir?
A:   Fine, thank you.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Williams, do you have any health related problems that the screening committee should be made aware of that would prevent you from serving on the Board in a full capacity?
A:   No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Considering your present occupation and other activities, would you be able to attend Board meetings on a regular basis?
A:   Yes, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any interests, professionally or personally, that present a conflict of interest because of your service on the Board?
A:   No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you now hold any public position of honor or trust that if elected to the Board would cause you to violate the dual office holding clause of the Constitution?
A:   No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Any questions of the gentleman?
MR. LITTLEJOHN: Mr. Williams, you live in the Orangeburg area?
A:   That's correct.
MR. LITTLEJOHN: Been a lifelong resident of the area?
A:   Yes, sir. I been on the Board twelve years at State.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Any other questions of the gentleman? Thank you, sir.
A:   Thank you.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Martha Scott Smith.
MARTHA SCOTT SMITH, being duly sworn, testifies as follows:
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any health related problems that the screening committee should be made aware of that would prevent you from serving on the Board in a full capacity?
A:   No, sir, I do not.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Considering your present occupation and other activities, would you be able to attend Board meetings on a regular basis?
A:   Yes, sir, I would.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any interests, professionally or personally, that present a conflict of interest because of your service on the Board?
 A:   No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you now hold any public position of honor or trust that if elected to the Board would cause you to violate the dual office holding clause of the Constitution?
A:   No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you, ma'am. Any questions of the lady? The Chair hears none. Thank you, ma'am.
A:   Thank you.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Seat 8, Mr. John Skolds.
JOHN SKOLDS, being duly sworn, testifies as follows:
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any health related problems that the screening committee should be made aware of that would prevent you from serving on the Board in a full capacity?
A:   No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Considering your present occupation and other activities, would you be able to attend Board meetings on a regular basis?
A:   Yes, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any interests, professionally or personally, that present a conflict of interest because of your service on the Board?
A:   No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you now hold any public position of honor or trust that if elected to the Board would cause you to violate the dual office holding clause of the Constitution?
A:   No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Any questions of the gentleman? Thank you, sir.
A:   Your welcome.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Charles H. Johnson.
CHARLES H. JOHNSON, being duly sworn, testifies as follows:
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any health related problems that the screening committee should be made aware of that would prevent you from serving on the Board in a full capacity?
A:   No.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Considering your present occupation and other activities, would you be able to attend Board meetings on a regular basis?
A:   Yes, I would.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any interests, professionally or personally, that present a conflict of interest because of your service on the Board?
 A:   You know, I am appointed ... position with the County Council, Orangeburg County Council, Area and Development Board, I'm Commissioner. It was an appointed position, though.
MR. CHAIRMAN: It's a commission?
A:   Right. The seat is called Commissioner.
MR. CHAIRMAN: What was the name of that again? County Development Commission?
A:   Orangeburg Area Development Board. Regional. But that was appointed.
MR. CHAIRMAN: We could check on that for you. If   you are elected and it was dual office holding, would you ... did you intend to give that up?
A:   Yes, I would.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Any questions of the gentleman? Alright, sir. Thank you, sir.
A:   Thank you.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Moses Brown. MOSES BROWN, being duly sworn, testifies as follows:
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any health related problems that the screening committee should be made aware of that would prevent you from serving on the Board in a full capacity?
A:   No, sir, I do not.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Considering your present occupation and other activities, would you be able to attend Board meetings on a regular basis?
A:   Yes, I will.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any interests, professionally or personally, that present a conflict of interest because of your service on the Board?
A:   No, sir, I don't.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you now hold any public position of honor or trust that if elected to the Board would cause you to violate the dual office holding clause of the Constitution?
A:   No, sir, I do not.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Gentlemen? Thank you for coming, sir.
A:   Thank you.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Sharon Wigfall. SHARON WIGFALL, being duly sworn, testifies as follows:
MR. CHAIRMAN: Ma'am, do you have any health related problems that the screening committee should be made aware of that would prevent you from serving on the Board in a full capacity?
 A:   No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Considering your present occupation and other activities, would you be able to attend Board meetings on a regular basis?
A:   Yes, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any interests, professionally or personally, that present a conflict of interest because of your service on the Board?
A:   No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you now hold any public position of honor or trust that if elected to the Board would cause you to violate the dual office holding clause of the Constitution?
A:   No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Gentlemen? Thank you, ma'am. Has Mr. Keith arrived yet? We're going now to the University of South Carolina. The only contest we have is in the 9th Judicial Circuit. First, we have John von Lehe, Jr. Is my pronunciation correct?
MR. VON LEHE: Yes, sir, close enough. von Lehe.
MR. CHAIRMAN: von Lehe.
JOHN VON LEHE, JR., being duly sworn, testifies as follows:
MR. CHAIRMAN: Sir, do you have any health related problems that the screening committee should be made aware of that would prevent you from serving on the Board in a full capacity?
A:   No.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Considering your present occupation and other activities, would you be able to attend Board meetings on a regular basis?
A:   Yes.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any interests, professionally or personally, that present a conflict of interest because of your service on the Board?
A:   No.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you now hold any public position of honor or trust that if elected to the Board would cause you to violate the dual office holding clause of the Constitution?
A:   I ... as I mentioned in my application, I am Chairman of the State Museum Commission. I don't know ... it's appointed, but I really don't know. But if it ... if elected to the Board of Trustees, I am going to resign that post.
MR. CHAIRMAN: I see. I think it'd probably be a conflict, but that clears that up. Any other questions, gentlemen? Thank you for coming, sir.
 A:   Thank you.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Our next candidate is Edward K. Pritchard.
EDWARD K. PRITCHARD, being duly sworn, testifies as follows:
MR. CHAIRMAN: Sir, do you have any health related problems that the screening committee should be made aware of that would prevent you from serving on the Board in a full capacity?
A:   No, sir, I have none.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Considering your present occupation and other activities, would you be able to attend Board meetings on a regular basis?
A:   Yes, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any interests, professionally or personally, that present a conflict of interest because of your service on the Board?
A:   No, I do not.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you now hold any public position of honor or trust that if elected to the Board would cause you to violate the dual office holding clause of the Constitution?
A:   No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Any questions of the gentleman? Where are you from, Mr. Pritchard?
A:   Charleston.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Charleston. Appreciate you coming. Thank you, sir.
A:   Thank you very much. Appreciate it.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Next we have Winthrop University. Two seats at-large. Our first candidate is incumbent, Dr. Sanita Savage.
DR. SANITA SAVAGE, being duly sworn, testifies as follows:
MR. CHAIRMAN: Ma'am, do you have any health related problems that the screening committee should be made aware of?
A:   No, I do not.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Considering your present occupation and other activities, would you be able to attend Board meetings on a regular basis?
A:   Yes, I would.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any interests, professionally or personally, that present a conflict of interest because of your service on the Board?
A:   No, I do not.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you now hold any public position of honor or trust that if elected to the Board would cause you to violate the dual office holding clause of the Constitution?
 A:   No, I do not.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Since you're an incumbent, evidently she has no conflict. Any questions of the lady? Appreciate you coming, Doctor.
A:   Thank you.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Now we have Mr. Thomas Crowson.
THOMAS CROWSON, being duly sworn, testifies as follows:
MR. CHAIRMAN: Considering your present occupation and other activities, would you be able to attend Board meetings on a regular basis?
A:   I will.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any health related problems that the screening committee should be made aware of that would prevent you from serving on the Board in a full capacity?
A:   None. None.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any interests, professionally or personally, that present a conflict of interest because of your service on the Board?
A:   None that I know of, no.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you now hold any public position of honor or trust that if elected to the Board would cause you to violate the dual office holding clause of the Constitution?
A:   Don't have any.
MR. CHAIRMAN: You can put your hand down now, sir.
A:   Thank you.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Any questions of the gentleman? Appreciate you coming, Mr. Crowson.
A:   Thank you.
MR. CHAIRMAN: We have all this background information on you and of course the Senators have it also. We'll share the minutes with them. We certainly appreciate you all coming and you'll be notified within ten days of the decision of the Committee, and probably we'll know by then what the election schedule will be. Thank you very much. If any of you have any questions, file by here and we'll be glad to answer them for you.
(There being no further questions, the screening adjourned at 2:30 p.m.)

COMMITTEE TO SCREEN CANDIDATES
FOR BOARDS OF TRUSTEES
OF STATE COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES
TRANSCRIPT OF SCREENING
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Tuesday, March 31, 1998
10:02 a.m. to 10:47 a.m.

The Committee Screening of Candidates for Boards of Trustees of State Colleges and Universities, taken on behalf of the Committee at Room 427, Blatt Building, 1105 Pendleton Street, Columbia, South Carolina, on the 31st day of March, 1998 before Jennifer L. Lester, Court Reporter and Notary Public in and for the State of South Carolina.

IN ATTENDANCE:
Representative Eugene C. Stoddard, Chairman
Senator Addison "Joe" G. Wilson, Vice Chairman
Senator Warren K. Giese
Representative Lanny F. Littlejohn
Representative Olin Phillips
Mrs. Sophia Floyd, Secretary

MR. CHAIRMAN: Good morning. Certainly appreciate all of you coming. We'd like to thank you on behalf of the General Assembly and the State of South Carolina for your ... those that have been serving and those of you who are here offering to serve. It's certainly a job that you have to be dedicated to. It doesn't have too large a monetary value. Again, we certainly appreciate you coming. And first on the order of business, I'll entertain a motion from Representative Phillips.
REP. PHILLIPS: Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a motion for the unopposed candidates here this morning, that they be dismissed from the screening now.
SEN. WILSON: Second.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion is made by Representative Phillips, seconded by Senator Wilson, that all unopposed candidates be excused from the screening. All in favor say "Aye".
COMMITTEE: Aye.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Opposed "No". The Aye's have it. All unopposed candidates may feel free to leave at any time or you may stay in watch the proceedings. Thank you for coming.
 (Off the record)
MR. CHAIRMAN: First, we'll look at the Clemson candidates. We have three seats and we have five candidates for those seats. First, we have Mr. Kingsmore.
HAROLD DOUG KINGSMORE, being duly sworn, testifies as follows:
MR. CHAIRMAN: Sir, do you have any health related problems that the screening committee should be made aware of that would prevent you from serving on the Committee in a full capacity?
A: No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Considering your present occupation and other activities, would you be able to attend Board meetings on a regular basis?
A: Yes, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any interests, professionally or personally, that present a conflict of interest because of your service on the Board?
A: No, I do not.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you now hold any public position of honor or trust that if elected to the Board would cause you to violate the dual office holding clause of the Constitution?
A: No, I do not.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Any questions of Mr. Kingsmore?
SEN. GIESE: Mr. Chairman. Mr. Kingsmore, what has been your record of attendance of the Clemson Board?
A: Senator, I have not missed a single board meeting in the two terms that I have been privileged to serve the University. And to my recollection, I may have missed two committee meetings over that eight year period.
SEN. GIESE: Thank you.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you, Senator Giese. Any other questions? Thank you, sir.
A: Thank you.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Next candidate is Patti McAbee.
PATTI MCABEE, being duly sworn, testifies as follows:
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any health related problems that the screening committee should be made aware of that would prevent you from serving on the Board in a full capacity?
A: No, I do not.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Considering your present occupation and other activities, would you be able to attend Board meetings on a regular basis?
 A: Yes.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any interests, professionally or personally, that present a conflict of interest because of your service on the Board?
A: No, I do not.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you now hold any public position of honor or trust that if elected to the Board would cause you to violate the dual office holding clause of the Constitution?
A: No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Evidently not. You're an incumbent I see. Any questions of the lady? Thank you, ma'am.
A: Thank you very much.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Our next candidate is Joseph P. Swann.
JOSEPH P. SWANN, being duly sworn, testifies as follows:
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any health related problems that the screening committee should be made aware of that would prevent you from serving on the Board in a full capacity?
A: No, I do not.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Considering your present occupation and other activities, would you be able to attend Board meetings on a regular basis?
A: Yes, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any interests, professionally or personally, that present a conflict of interest because of your service on the Board?
A: No, sir, I do not.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Any questions of the gentleman?
SEN. GIESE: Mr. Chairman.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Senator Giese.
SEN. GIESE: Mr. Swann, how long have you served on the Board?
A: I'm just completing my second term, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you, sir. Our next candidate is Mr. Harry Bell.
HARRY BELL, being duly sworn, testifies as follows:
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any health related problems that the screening committee should be made aware of that would prevent you from serving on the Board in a full capacity?
A: None that I'm aware of.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Considering your present occupation and other activities, would you be able to attend Board meetings on a regular basis?
A: Yes, sir.
 MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any interests, professionally or personally, that present a conflict of interest because of your service on the Board?
A: None.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you now hold any public position of honor or trust that if elected to the Board would cause you to violate the dual office holding clause of the Constitution?
A: No.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Any questions of Mr. Bell?
SEN. WILSON: Mr. Chairman.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Senator Wilson.
SEN. WILSON: It's really not a question, but I'd just like to thank Mr. Bell for his service with the Farm Bureau. You certainly reflected well on the agricultural community of South Carolina and I just want to thank you on behalf of all the citizens of South Carolina, urban and rural.
A: Thank you, Senator.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Senator Giese.
SEN. GIESE: Mr. Chairman. Mr. Bell, how do you think you can make a ... can you make a unique contribution to the Board in some way?
A: Well, Senator, of course, my profession has been agriculture and that has been my primary interest, but I realize that as a member of the Board of Trustees I would have to take all of the schools into consideration. But, yes, I think that I do have a contribution to make. I have served on the commission to ... on the future of Clemson University. I'm still serving on that commission. I've served on various committees there. I have worked with the Presidents ever since Dr. Bob Edwards was President there. And I think that I do have something that I can contribute.
SEN. GIESE: Thank you.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Any other questions? Thank you, Mr. Bell.
A: Thank you.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Next, Mr. Howard Rawl.
HOWARD RAWL, being duly sworn, testifies as follows:
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any health related problems that the screening committee should be made aware of that would prevent you from serving on the Board in a full capacity?
A: No, sir, don't have any.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Considering your present occupation and other activities, would you be able to attend Board meetings on a regular basis?
A: Yes, I would.
 MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any interests, professionally or personally, that present a conflict of interest because of your service on the Board?
A: No, sir, don't have any.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you now hold any public position of honor or trust that if elected to the Board would cause you to violate the dual office holding clause of the Constitution?
A: I'm on Board of Visitors now, but I would resign from that if I'm elected to the Board.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Okay, thank you, sir. You may put your hand down. Any questions of the gentleman?
SEN. WILSON: Mr. Chairman.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Senator Wilson.
SEN. WILSON: I'm not fortunate enough to be the resident and state Senator of Mr. Rawl, but I know his reputation in Lexington County. He is one of the most widely respected persons in business in our county and also, even though I'm a Gamecock, I also know he's one of the strongest Tiger fans that ever existed. So his reputation precedes him and I just want to thank you for your service on ... prior service to Clemson and thank you for what you do for making us ... our county a better community to live in.
A: Thank you, Senator.
MR. CHAIRMAN: He has good college too.
SEN. WILSON: World class.
A: Yes, sir, I'm the one that helps to feed the vegetables and fruits five times a day.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Any other questions? Thank you, sir. That completes Clemson. Now we move to the College of Charleston; no contest there. Next, we have Francis Marion. Our first contest is in the 2nd District, Seat 3. James R. Courie.
JAMES R. COURIE, being duly sworn, testifies as follows:
MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Courie, do you have any health related problems that the screening committee should be made aware of that would prevent you from serving on the Board in a full capacity?
A: No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Considering your present occupation and other activities, would you be able to attend Board meetings on a regular basis?
A: Yes, sir, I would.
 MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any interests, professionally or personally, that present a conflict of interest because of your service on the Board?
A: No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Any questions of the gentleman?
SEN. GIESE: Mr. Chairman.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Yes, sir, Senator Giese.
SEN. GIESE: What has been your attendance record on the Board since you're the incumbent?
A: Senator, I think I have missed one meeting over, I think, about six years. Due to a professional conflict, I was out of town and couldn't avoid it. I don't think I missed any committee meetings, but I did miss one board meeting.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Any other questions? Thank you, sir.
A: Thank you.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Next candidate is Mr. Thomas C. Griffin, Jr.
THOMAS C. GRIFFIN, JR., being duly sworn, testifies as follows:
MR. CHAIRMAN: Sir, do you have any health related problems that the screening committee should be made aware of that would prevent you from serving on the Board in a full capacity?
A: No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Considering your present occupation and other activities, would you be able to attend Board meetings on a regular basis?
A: Yes, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any interests, professionally or personally, that present a conflict of interest because of your service on the Board?
A: No, I do not.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you now hold any public position of honor or trust that if elected to the Board would cause you to violate the dual office holding clause of the Constitution?
A: No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Any questions of the gentleman?
SEN. GIESE: Mr. Chairman.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Senator Giese.
SEN. GIESE: What special kind of contribution do you think you can make to that Board if elected, tell us about it.
 A: Well, I happen to live in Columbia, but born in Florence. I attended to the University of South Carolina at Florence in the early beginnings, which is now Francis Marion University. I attended there one year having played in tennis and in basketball. The second year I elected to move to Columbia and attend the University of South Carolina at the Columbia campus. So, my family still lives in Florence. My father and my mother-in-law still lives in Florence; sisters and brothers and cousins. So, I think the contribution to go back, even living here in Columbia, to give back to now Francis Marion University.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Any other questions? Thank you, sir. 3rd District, Seat 5. Our first candidate is Carolyn B. Shortt.
CAROLYN B. SHORTT, being duly sworn, testifies as follows:
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any health related problems that the screening committee should be made aware of that would prevent you from serving in a full capacity?
A: No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Considering your present occupation and other activities, would you be able to attend Board meetings on a regular basis?
A: Yes, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any interests, professionally or personally, that present a conflict of interest because of your service on the Board?
A: No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Any questions of the lady? Thank you, Ms. Shortt.
A: Thank you.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Next candidate is Jody Lipford.
JODY LIPFORD, being duly sworn, testifies as follows:
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any health related problems that the committee should be made aware of that would prevent you from serving on the Board in a full capacity?
A: No, I do not.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Considering your present occupation and other activities, would you be able to attend Board meetings on a regular basis?
A: Yes.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any interests, professionally or personally, that present a   conflict of interest because of your service on the Board?
A: I do not.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you now hold any public position of honor or trust that if elected to the Board would cause you to violate the dual office holding clause of the Constitution?
A: I do not.
 MR. CHAIRMAN: Any questions of the gentleman? Thank you, Mr. Lipford. 4th District, Seat 7. Randall Dozier.
RANDALL DOZIER, being duly sworn, testifies as follows:
MR. CHAIRMAN: Sir, do you have any health related problems that the screening committee should be made aware of that would prevent you from serving on the Board in a full capacity?
A: I do not.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Considering your present occupation and other activities, would you be able to attend Board meetings on a regular basis?
A: I will.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any interests, professionally or personally, that present a conflict of interest because of your service on the Board?
A: No, sir, I do not.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Any questions of the gentleman? Thank you, sir.
A: Thank you.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Our next candidate is Marion E. Strobel.
MARION E. STROBEL, being duly sworn, testifies as follows:
MR. CHAIRMAN: Ms. Strobel, do you have any health related problems that the screening committee should be made aware of that would prevent you from serving on the Board in a full capacity?
A: No, sir, I don't.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Considering your present occupation and other activities, would you be able to attend Board meetings on a regular basis?
A: Yes, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any interests, professionally or personally, that present a conflict of interest because of your service on the Board?
A: No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you now hold any public position of honor or trust that if elected to the Board would cause you to violate the dual office holding clause of the Constitution?
A: No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Any questions of the lady?
REP. LITTLEJOHN: Mr. Chairman.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Representative Littlejohn.
REP. LITTLEJOHN: Ms. Strobel, what ties do you have directly to Francis Marion?
A: Could you please explain that a little?
 REP. LITTLEJOHN: What interest do you have in serving Francis Marion?
A: Oh. About ten years ago I was invited to Francis Marion to be a guest lecturer in the history department; I'm a professor at Furman. I was quite entranced by the institution, beautiful campus, fine faculty. And as a resident of the state of South Carolina for the last seventeen years, I've come very much interested in serving this state. And I understand that Francis Marion is an institution of some difficulty and I think feel that I have qualifications which could assist it in getting back on track.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you, ma'am.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Any others? Thank you, ma'am. 5th District, Seat 9. W. C. Stanton.
W.C. STANTON, being duly sworn, testifies as follows:
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any health related problems that the screening committee should be made aware of that would prevent you from serving on the Board in a full capacity?
A: No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Considering your present occupation and other activities, would you be able to attend Board meetings on a regular basis?
A: Yes, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any interests, professionally or personally, that present a conflict of interest because of your service on the Board?
A: No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you now hold any public position of honor or trust that if elected to the Board would cause you to violate the dual office holding clause of the Constitution?
A: No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Any questions of the gentleman?
REP. LITTLEJOHN: Mr. Chairman, I have ...
MR. CHAIRMAN: Representative Littlejohn.
REP. LITTLEJOHN: ... a question. What interests you to serve Francis Marion?
A: Sir?
REP. LITTLEJOHN: What interest do you have in serving Francis Marion?
A: Over the years, life has been extremely kind to me. And I feel I can serve Francis Marion, I may be able to put back into the community some of the lessons and benefits that I have received.
 REP. LITTLEJOHN: Thank you, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you, sir.
SEN. WILSON: Mr. Chairman ...
MR. CHAIRMAN: Just a minute, Mr. Stanton.
A: Yes, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Senator Wilson has a question.
SEN. WILSON: Mr. Stanton, I appreciate your service to Francis Marion University. And I'm in the unique situation in that my oldest son graduated from there two years ago and I am very proud of that institution. He was there four years, got an excellent education. And the only down side, he's looking into going to law school now, but he ... I know, poor fellow. I know David's your son; I find that horrifying. But, I've noticed in a number of the comments about Francis Marion, the common thread that the University is in crisis due to various matters going on and a decline in enrollment. As an incumbent, what do you see the circumstance at this very fine institution?
A: Well, to begin with, we have just been re- accredited, SACS, that's Southern Association of Colleges and Schools, and that's a ten year accreditation. We also have accreditation and several other schools on campus. I don't have the list with me; I could have brought it; I'm sorry I didn't. At least six or eight other schools are accredited. Positive steps are being made to improve enrollment. We received a $25,000 grant to go out into the high schools. I think we're working with ten or twelve high schools now, some 360-500 students, to give them preparatory instructions prior to taking the SAT board. And by improving these scores, we feel like there are more potential students available in the Pee Dee area to come to Francis Marion. I can't guarantee you that we're going to improve enrollment because the tech school's a tough competition. But we try to put out quality education.
SEN. WILSON: And so, it's your view the enrollment decline could relate to competition with the very good tech schools in the Pee Dee?
A: There are very good tech schools in the Pee Dee area and I believe they can give an hour's credit for about $55, where we have to charge about a $165. In some cases, students go to tech for two years and then ...
SEN. WILSON: Transfer.
A: ... transfer to Francis Marion for the next two years. But the spring enrollment was the highest that it's been in several years at Francis Marion. And the retention rate was better. We're showing signs of improvement. But you are correct, the enrollment has been awful.
 MR. CHAIRMAN: Senator Giese.
SEN. GIESE: Mr. Chairman, two things. Mr. Stanton, both praise for the ... I heard that your President and Board reacted very favorably within the last year or so regarding the institution to produce people that are badly needed throughout the nation, and which our state's not producing nearly enough of, and that's people in the field of computers. And I commend you and the Board and your President on the institution of that program, which by the way, is also ... shares that work with the tech; in other words, it's a group operation that was put together, I'm sure, by your Board and your President. The other thing, you have a program from the NCAA called the National Youth Sports Program. I happen to serve on that Board and we honored your school this year as being the outstanding ... one of the two outstanding schools in its first year of operation and your President, especially, was singled out as someone that was tremendously cooperative. And it's a national program with 175 schools in it and your school was one of the honorees.
A: Thank you, Senator. One other thing that we're involved in is a research part that will adjoin the campus. And that's in cooperation with the South Carolina Research Authority. We're working with them. That's beginning to get off the ground now.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you, sir.
A: Thank you, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Our next candidate is Mr. David Shaw.
DAVID SHAW, being duly sworn, testifies as follows:
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any health related problems that the screening committee should be made aware of that would prevent you from serving on the Board in a full capacity?
A: No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Considering your present occupation and other activities, would you be able to attend Board meetings on a regular basis?
A: Yes, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any interests, professionally or personally, that would present a conflict of interest because of your service on the Board?
A: No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you now hold any public position of honor or trust that if elected to the Board would cause you to violate the dual office holding clause of the Constitution?
A: No, sir.
 MR. CHAIRMAN: Questions of the gentleman? Thank you, sir. Our next candidate is at-large seat 13, Dianne Herrington. I'm sorry, 6th District, Seat 11, Peter Hyman.
SEN. WILSON: That's General Hyman.
GEN. HYMAN: Mr. Chairman, I have to apologize, I don't hear well.
PETER HYMAN, being duly sworn, testifies as follows:
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any health related problems that the screening committee should be made aware of that would prevent you from serving on the Board in a full capacity?
A: No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Considering your present occupation and other activities, would you be able to attend Board meetings on a regular basis?
A: I will.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any interests, professionally or personally, that present a conflict of interest because of your service on the Board?
A: None.
MR. CHAIRMAN: I came here some time after you had left, Mr. Hyman, but they called you the Father of Francis Marion when I got here.
A: Well, I been connected with it a long time.
MR. CHAIRMAN: It seems that Sol didn't give it to you on your first attempt or two.
A: Yes, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Any questions of the gentleman?
SEN. WILSON: Mr. Chairman.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Senator Wilson.
SEN. WILSON: I've gotten to know General Hyman through the Army Reserves and I want to thank you for your service, again, through the General Assembly and Reserves and also your service in the legal profession in the Pee Dee. We know you well.
A: Thank you, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Senator Giese.
SEN. GIESE: I noticed that you joined the Navy in 1943.
A: That's correct.
SEN. GIESE: I joined in '42. I wondered, what did you do in your service in the Navy?
A: I'm sorry I didn't hear you?
SEN. GIESE: What did you do in your service to the Navy, what was your ...
A: In the Pacific. I was in the naval bombardment squadron.
 SEN. GIESE: Naval air corps then?
A: Yes, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Any other questions of the gentleman? Thank you, sir.
A: Thank you.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Our next candidate is Ralph Davis.
RALPH DAVIS, being duly sworn, testifies as follows:
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any health related problems that the screening committee should be made aware of that would prevent you from serving on the Board in a full capacity?
A: No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Considering your present occupation and other activities, would you be able to attend Board meetings on a regular basis?
A: Yes, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any interests, professionally or personally, that present a conflict of interest because of your service on the Board?
A: No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you now hold any public position of honor or trust that if elected to the Board would cause you to violate the dual office holding clause of the Constitution?
A: No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Any questions of the gentleman? Thank you, Mr. Davis. Now Seat 13, we go with Ms. Herrington.
DIANNE HERRINGTON, being duly sworn, testifies as follows:
MR. CHAIRMAN: Ms. Herrington, do you have any health related problems that the screening committee should be made aware of that would prevent you from serving on the Board in a full capacity?
A: No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Considering your present occupation and other activities, would you be able to attend Board meetings on a regular basis?
A: Yes, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any interests, professionally or personally, that present a conflict of interest because of your service on the Board?
A: No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you now hold any public position of honor or trust that if elected to the Board would cause you to violate the dual office holding clause of the Constitution?
A: No, sir.
 MR. CHAIRMAN: Any questions of the lady? Thank you, ma'am. Next candidate is Alfred H. Agnew.
ALFRED H. AGNEW, being duly sworn, testifies as follows:
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any health related problems that the screening committee should be made aware of that would prevent you from serving on the Board in a full capacity?
A: No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Considering your present occupation and other activities, would you be able to attend Board meetings on a regular basis?
A: Yes, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any interests, professionally or personally, that present a conflict of interest because of your service on the Board?
A: No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you now hold any public position of honor or trust that if elected to the Board would cause you to violate the dual office holding clause of the Constitution?
A: No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Any questions? Representative Phillips.
REP. PHILLIPS: Mr. Chairman. I noticed on his application where he's a member of the Marion County Economic Development Board, elected 1994 to the present. I'd like to ask the gentleman if he's elected to the Francis Marion Board, does he intend to resign from that position?
A: I didn't realize it would be a conflict of interest or a conflict in schedules.
REP. PHILLIPS: Economic Development Board, Marion County, elected position.
A: If I were elected to this Board and it was necessary to resign from that, then I would.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Any other questions? Senator Wilson.
SEN. WILSON: I notice that you're a member of NAM- POWS, Inc.
A: Yes, sir.
SEN. WILSON: Were you personally a POW?
A: Yes, sir.
SEN. WILSON: And how long were you incarcerated?
A: From December the 28th of '72 until day before yesterday twenty-five years ago.
SEN. WILSON: Well, I think that's very significant. And we appreciate your service to our country.
A: Thank you.
 MR. CHAIRMAN: Any other questions of the gentleman? Thank you, Mr. Agnew. Robert E. Lee.
ROBERT E. LEE, being duly sworn, testifies as follows:
MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Lee, do you have any health related problems that the screening committee should be made aware of?
A: No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Considering your present occupation and other activities, would you be able to attend Board meetings on a regular basis?
A: Yes, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you now have any interests, professionally or personally, that present a conflict of interest because of your service on the Board?
A: No, sir, I do not.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you now hold any public position of honor or trust that if elected to the Board would cause you to violate the dual office holding clause of the Constitution?
A: No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Any questions of the gentleman? Senator Giese.
SEN. GIESE: Mr. Lee, besides ... are you any relative of The Robert E. Lee?
A: No, sir. I'm named after a fellow by the name of Robert Eugene Pickrell who's from Pamplico, he's a professor at a school in Nashville. So, it just falls by happenstance.
SEN. GIESE: What type of law do you practice?
A: I practice with Lawrence McIntosh. We have a general corporate practice. We also do some insurance defense and I do capital defense by appointment from certain judges.
SEN. GIESE: Do you do any pro bono work?
A: Yes, sir, I do. I don't ... Generally, work that comes in ... we have people who just stop by and I take it. If you need help, you know, if they need help with estates and that kind of thing, is generally what I do.
SEN. GIESE: Thank you.
REP. LITTLEJOHN: Mr. Chairman, one question about the University ...
MR. CHAIRMAN: Representative Littlejohn.
REP. LITTLEJOHN: ... Foundation, the Francis Marion Foundation, would you consider that a conflict, as a Trustee and a Foundation Member?
 A: No, sir. There are a number of Trustees who are here today, General Hyman, some of the others who are also members of that Board who I serve with. So, I ... they don't consider it a conflict, so I don't really consider it myself.
REP. LITTLEJOHN: Okay, thank you.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you, sir. Our next candidate is Allard A. Allston.
ALLARD A. ALLSTON, being duly sworn, testifies as follows:
MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Allston, do you have any health related problems that the screening committee should be made aware of?
A: I do not.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Considering your present occupation and other activities, would you be able to attend Board meetings on a regular basis?
A: I will be.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any interests, professionally or personally, that present a conflict of interest because of your service on the Board?
A: None whatsoever.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Any questions of the gentleman? Thank you, sir.
A: Thank you, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Next candidate, Laura Crawford.
LAURA CRAWFORD, being duly sworn, testifies as follows:
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any health related problems that the screening committee should be made aware of that would prevent you from serving on the Board in a full capacity?
A: No, I do not.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Considering your present occupation and other activities, would you be able to attend Board meetings on a regular basis?
A: Yes, I would.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any interests, professionally or personally, that present a conflict of interest because of your service on the Board?
A: No, it would not.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you now hold any public position of honor or trust that if elected to the Board would cause you to violate the dual office holding clause of the Constitution?
A: No, I do not.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Any questions of the lady? Thank you, ma'am.
A: Thank you.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Next is Kenneth Jackson.
KENNETH JACKSON, being duly sworn, testifies as follows:
 MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any health related problems that the screening committee should be made aware of that would prevent you from serving on the Board in a full capacity?
A: No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Considering your present occupation and other activities, would you be able to attend Board meetings on a regular basis?
A: Yes, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you now have any interests, professionally or personally, that would cause a conflict of interest because of your service on the Board?
A: No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you now hold any public position of honor or trust that if elected to the Board would cause you to violate the dual office holding clause of the Constitution?
A: No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Any questions of the gentleman? Senator Giese?
SEN. GIESE: Mr. Chairman, I've noticed in a number of these applications that people who've attended Francis Marion and speak very highly; in your case, you mention your quality education. Tell me a little bit why you consider yourself so fortunate to have and what did they do that made you feel fortunate to receive their education?
A: Well, first of all, I was fortunate to be able to attend because it's accessible and it was affordable. And then when I was there, I felt like I received a personal interest from the faculty and the quality of the courses I took have benefited me in my professional career. I just feel like I received a quality education and I'm thankful for that.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Any other questions?
REP. PHILLIPS: Mr. Chairman, I don't have a question, but I'd like to commend all of the candidates here today. In their background, they gave a lot of information and it prevents us from having to ask a lot of questions. Mr. Jackson's background letter was very impressive to me and I just want to say to all of the candidates that we've had, even the previous ones before, they did a good job and after reviewing most of these, it's prevented us from having to ask a lot of questions.
MR. CHAIRMAN: It certainly speeds up the screening process when they ...
 SEN. WILSON: Mr. Chairman, inquiry. These statements are terrific. Senator Giese and I were pointing out the various statements that have been presented and we don't want to be rude to anybody by not asking questions. But so many of the statements are so eloquent that they truly speak for themselves and my inquiry, these will be included in the record, is that correct?
MR. CHAIRMAN: Oh, yes. Correct. Thank you, sir.
A: Thank you.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Next we have some of those that could not attend last week's hearing. South Carolina State University, at-large, Seat 6, we have Singleton. Monnique?
MR. SINGLETON: Monnique.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Monnique.
MONNIQUE SINGLETON, being duly sworn, testifies as follows:
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any health related problems that the screening committee should be made aware of that would prevent you from serving on the Board in a full capacity?
A: No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Considering your present occupation and other activities, would you be able to attend Board meetings on a regular basis?
A: Yes, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any interests, professionally or personally, that present a conflict of interest because of your service on the Board?
A: No, I do not.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you now hold any public position of honor or trust that if elected to the Board would cause you to violate the dual office holding clause of the Constitution?
A: I do not.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Any questions of the gentleman?
SEN. GIESE: Mr. Chairman.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Senator Giese.
SEN. GIESE: South Carolina State University has had some problems in the past. A change of leadership a number of times. Serving the Board when there's turbulence like has to play a very important part in bringing the University though those kind of tumultuous days. How do you think you can contribute to the stability of the institution as a member of the Board?
 A: As it relates to contributing to the stability of the University, one of the things that I am looking forward to doing if given the opportunity to serve is to support President Davis's vision. I think he has truly a wonderful vision for the University and I have a lot of faith in him as a capable President of the University. When I attended South Carolina State, he was my advisor and he certainly gave me some tremendous advise.
SEN. GIESE: Let me commend you. If I were asked the same question, I would have made the same statement. You do have powerful new leadership that just kind of requests support. And I would think that your statement is very well taken.
A: Thank you.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you, sir. Our next candidate is Rose Hilliard-Wilder.
ROSE HILLIARD-WILDER, being duly sworn, testifies as follows:
MR. CHAIRMAN: Ma'am, do you have any health related problems that the screening committee should be made aware of that would prevent you from serving on the Board in a full capacity?
A: No, I do not.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Considering your present occupation and other activities, would you be able to attend Board meetings on a regular basis?
A: Yes, I would.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any interests, professionally or personally, that present a conflict of interest because of your service on the Board?
A: No.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you now hold any public position of honor or trust that if elected to the Board would cause you to violate the dual office holding clause of the Constitution?
A: No, I do not.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Any questions of the lady? Thank you, ma'am.
A: Thank you.
MR. CHAIRMAN: 3rd District, Seat 3, Charles C. Lewis, Sr.
CHARLES C. LEWIS, SR., being duly sworn, testifies as follows:
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any health related problems that the screening committee should be made aware of that would prevent you from serving on the Board in a full capacity?
A: No, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Considering your present occupation and other activities, would you be able to attend Board meetings on a regular basis?
A: Yes, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any interests, professionally or personally, that present a conflict of interest because of your service on the Board?
A: No, sir.
 MR. CHAIRMAN: Any questions of Mr. Lewis? Senator Giese.
SEN. GIESE: Mr. Moseley, how long have you served on the Board?
MR. CHAIRMAN: This is Lewis.
SEN. GIESE: Mr. Lewis, I'm sorry.
A: Seventeen years.
SEN. GIESE: Seventeen years?
A: Yes, sir.
SEN. GIESE: So you've been through the mill?
A: Yes.
SEN. GIESE: Would you give me your candid opinion on the future of South Carolina State with the new leadership that you have?
A: I think we have an outstanding future in the hands of President Davis. I think he's doing a good job. I think he's an excellent capable leader. And by lending him our support, I'm sure that he's going to do a good job. We are now going after the quality of students, to improve SAT scores and whatnot. I think we're doing well considering the rules have been changed somewhat under the performance based funding. And we hope, under his leadership, that we will continue and be able to compete in this arena.
SEN. GIESE: What opportunity did you have judging your new President as a leader prior to selecting him?
A: I was a student with him going back several years. I knew his capabilities. He's an outstanding leader. He's came up through the ranks. He's doing a fantastic job. He's done a fantastic job prior to becoming President. He's served in several positions at the University. He's also done a good job with the Southern Association and bringing us though that. So, we're well aware of his capabilities.
SEN. GIESE: In your seventeen years that you've served on the Board, obviously you've been in a position to vote on the people who filled the leadership position prior to Dr. Davis, could you tell me about how you view the Board's relationship with the President through these years. There have been quite a number of changes. Is the Board a subservient participant, are they aggressive? Tell me a bit about how you view the Board?
 A: I think they have a good working relationship with all the Presidents. We've had some changes recently and those changes, we felt that those particular leaders were not taking the University where we wanted it to be going. We moved on, so to speak. We've gotten in Dr. Davis. We feel he's doing an outstanding job. He served as interim prior to the Presidency and we kind of got a first hand look at his capabilities prior to making him President.
SEN. GIESE: Let me commend you on that particular statement, because so often a Board lets the President lead the Board and you've just told me, and I certainly accept that, that the Board has accepted the job of leading and selecting a person to follow their leadership and carry out their policies.
A: Thank you, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you, sir. Our next candidate is with Winthrop University, Robert Gahagan.
ROBERT GAHAGAN, being duly sworn, testifies as follows:
MR. CHAIRMAN: Sir, do you have any health related problems that the screening committee should be made aware of that would prevent you from serving on the Board in a full capacity?
A: No, I do not.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Considering your present occupation and other activities, would you be able to attend Board meetings on a regular basis?
A: Yes, I will.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any interests, professionally or personally, that present a conflict of interest because of your service on the Board?
A: No, I do not.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Any questions of the gentleman? Appreciate you coming, sir. That concludes the screening. All candidates appeared either last week or this week.
REP. LITTLEJOHN: Mr. Chairman, I make a motion we approve the ones we have looked at.
SEN. WILSON: Second.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Representative Littlejohn moves, and seconded by Senator Wilson, that we approve all the candidates. All in favor say "Aye".
COMMITTEE: Aye.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Opposed "No". The Aye's have it. Thank you, gentlemen.
REP. LITTLEJOHN: Mr. Chairman ...
SEN. WILSON: Move we adjourn.
REP. LITTLEJOHN: Do we need to take care of some other business before we adjourn?
MR. CHAIRMAN: We have a little bit of other business. Committee will adjourn from its duties as the Screening Committee.
 There being no further testimony, the screening was adjourned at 10:47 a.m.

ORDERED ENROLLED FOR RATIFICATION

The following Bills were read the third time and having received three readings in both Houses, it was ordered that the titles be changed to that of Acts and enrolled for Ratification:

H. 4107 (Word version) -- Rep. Rhoad: A BILL TO AMEND SECTION 7-7-90, CODE OF LAWS OF SOUTH CAROLINA, 1976, RELATING TO VOTING PRECINCTS IN BAMBERG COUNTY, SO AS TO DESIGNATE THE VOTING PLACE OF THE EDISTO PRECINCT AS THE EDISTO RURAL FIRE DEPARTMENT.
(By prior motion of Senator MATTHEWS)

H. 4999 (Word version) -- Reps. Lloyd, Inabinett, Bailey, Bowers and Rhoad: A BILL TO AMEND ACT 507 OF 1996, RELATING TO THE CREATION OF THE COLLETON COUNTY BOARD OF ELECTIONS AND VOTER REGISTRATION, SO AS TO PROVIDE THAT NO PAID EMPLOYEE OF THE BOARD OR THE FORMER SEPARATE BOARDS OF ELECTIONS AND VOTER REGISTRATION IS ELIGIBLE TO SERVE AS A MEMBER OF THE BOARD.
(By prior motion of Senator WASHINGTON)

H. 5031 (Word version) -- Reps. Lloyd, Bowers, Inabinett, Bailey and Rhoad: A BILL TO ENACT THE COLLETON COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT SCHOOL BOND-PROPERTY TAX RELIEF ACT.
(By prior motion of Senator WASHINGTON)

H. 5050 (Word version) -- Rep. Rhoad: A BILL TO AMEND ACT 1090 OF 1972, AS AMENDED, RELATING TO BAMBERG-EHRHARDT SCHOOL DISTRICT ONE AND DENMARK-OLAR SCHOOL DISTRICT TWO OF BAMBERG COUNTY, SO AS TO PROVIDE THAT MEMBERS OF BOARDS OF TRUSTEES OF THESE DISTRICTS MAY PARTICIPATE IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS' STAFF INSURANCE PROGRAM AND RECEIVE FRINGE BENEFITS OFFERED TO SCHOOL DISTRICT EMPLOYEES IN ADDITION TO RECEIVING THEIR ANNUAL SALARY.
(By prior motion of Senator MATTHEWS)

HOUSE BILL RETURNED

The following House Bill was read the third time and ordered returned to the House with amendments:

H. 4799 (Word version) -- Reps. Altman, Kelley, Keegan, Lanford, Rhoad, Witherspoon and Meacham: A BILL TO AMEND SECTION 50-17-1010, AS AMENDED, CODE OF LAWS OF SOUTH CAROLINA, 1976, RELATING TO COASTAL FISHERIES LAWS, SO AS TO ALLOW SHRIMP BOATS TO DRAG NETS NO CLOSER THAN ONE-FOURTH MILE OF KIAWAH AND SEABROOK ISLAND BEACHES.
(By prior motion of Senator CORK, with unanimous consent)

THIRD READING BILL

The following Bill was read the third time and ordered sent to the House of Representatives:

S. 1157 (Word version) -- Senators Leventis, Drummond, Ford, Waldrep, Giese and Ravenel: A BILL TO PROVIDE THAT THE DUTIES, FUNCTIONS, AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE DIVISION OF PUBLIC CHARITIES OF THE OFFICE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL ARE DEVOLVED UPON THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE ON AUGUST 1, 1998; TO TRANSFER ALL PERSONNEL, APPROPRIATIONS, AND FULL-TIME EQUIVALENT POSITIONS OF THE DIVISION OF PUBLIC CHARITIES TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE ON AUGUST 1, 1998; TO PROVIDE THAT THE SECRETARY OF STATE SHALL ADMINISTER THE "SOUTH CAROLINA SOLICITATION OF CHARITABLE FUNDS ACT"; TO AMEND SECTIONS 33-56-20, 33-56-30, 33-56-40, 33-56-50, 33-56-60, 33-56-70, 33-56-80, 33-56-90, 33-56-100, 33-56-110, 33-56-120, 33-56-130, 33-56-140, 33-56-150, 33-56-160, AND 33-56-190, ALL AS AMENDED, CODE OF LAWS OF SOUTH CAROLINA, 1976, ALL RELATING TO THE SOLICITATION OF CHARITABLE FUNDS, SO AS TO DELETE REFERENCES TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND REFLECT THE SECRETARY OF STATE AND HIS OFFICE AS THE OFFICIAL AGENCY TO ADMINISTER THE PROVISIONS OF THE "SOUTH CAROLINA SOLICITATION OF CHARITABLE FUNDS ACT", AND TO ALLOW THE SECRETARY OF STATE TO RETAIN A PORTION OF ADMINISTRATIVE FINES TO OFFSET THE EXPENSES OF ENFORCEMENT.
(By prior motion of Senator DRUMMOND, with unanimous consent)

ADJOURNMENT

At 11:35 A.M., on motion of Senator GIESE, the Senate adjourned to meet next Tuesday, April 28, 1998, at 12:00 Noon.

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